The "official" entry list has been posted by the FIA (on the deadline
set by their 2010 sporting regulations):
No Driver Entrant Constructor
1 Jenson BUTTON (GB) VODAFONE McLAREN MERCEDES McLAREN MERCEDES
2 Lewis HAMILTON (GB) VODAFONE McLAREN MERCEDES McLAREN MERCEDES
3 Nico ROSBERG (D) BRAWN GP FORMULA ONE TEAM BRAWN MERCEDES
4 TBA BRAWN GP FORMULA ONE TEAM BRAWN MERCEDES
5 Sebastian VETTEL (D) RED BULL RACING RED BULL RENAULT
6 Mark WEBBER (AUS) RED BULL RACING RED BULL RENAULT
7 Felipe MASSA (BR) SCUDERIA FERRARI MARLBORO FERRARI
8 Fernando ALONSO (E) SCUDERIA FERRARI MARLBORO FERRARI
9 Rubens BARRICHELLO (BR) AT&T WILLIAMS WILLIAMS COSWORTH
10 Nico HULKENBERG (D) AT&T WILLIAMS WILLIAMS COSWORTH
11 Robert KUBICA (PL) RENAULT F1 TEAM RENAULT
12 TBA RENAULT F1 TEAM RENAULT
14 Adrian SUTIL (D) FORCE INDIA F1 TEAM FORCE INDIA MERCEDES
15 Vitantonio LIUZZI (I) FORCE INDIA F1 TEAM FORCE INDIA MERCEDES
16 Sebastien BUEMI (CH) SCUDERIA TORO ROSSO STR FERRARI
17 TBA SCUDERIA TORO ROSSO STR FERRARI
18 TBA LOTUS F1 RACING LOTUS COSWORTH
19 TBA LOTUS F1 RACING LOTUS COSWORTH
20 TBA CAMPOS META 1 CAMPOS DALLARA
21 Bruno SENNA (BR) CAMPOS META 1 CAMPOS DALLARA
22 TBA US F1 TEAM US F1 COSWORTH
23 TBA US F1 TEAM US F1 COSWORTH
24 Timo GLOCK (D) VIRGIN RACING VIRGIN COSWORTH
25 TBA VIRGIN RACING VIRGIN COSWORTH
No major surprises. Minor surprises:
- While Manor’s expected renaming to Virgin Racing has taken place,
Brawn’s to Mercedes Grand Prix is relegated to a footnote saying
they’ve indicated their "intention" to do so.
- Neither Toyota nor [BMW] Sauber is listed. Another footnote:
"Toyota Motorsport GmbH remains formally bound by the Concorde
Agreement to put forward a team for participation, though it has
indicated that it will not be in a position to do so. "An
announcement will be made regarding this entry in due course."
Whoever ends up running in the 13th slot will evidently be
assigned numbers 26 and 27; wonder if Bernie will put them at
the end of the pit lane.
Non-surprises:
- Drivers listed.
– Confirmation of Renault power for Red Bull. Really, what other
possibility was there?
Likely red herring:
- The "Constructor" for entrant Campos Meta 1 reflects the folks
actually building the car ("Campos Dallara"); the omission of
mention of an engine is almost certainly an oversight.
–
Mark Jackson – http://www.alumni.caltech.edu/~mjackson
Not knowing is much more interesting than believing
an answer that might be wrong. - Richard Feynman
On Tue, 01 Dec 2009 01:10:15 +0000, Mark Jackson
<mjack…@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote:
>The "official" entry list has been posted by the FIA (on the deadline
>set by their 2010 sporting regulations):
Thanks for that. A lot more change than we’ve seen in the lineup for
many years – who says an economic downturn is a bad thing?
>No Driver Entrant Constructor
>1 Jenson BUTTON (GB) VODAFONE McLAREN MERCEDES McLAREN MERCEDES
>2 Lewis HAMILTON (GB) VODAFONE McLAREN MERCEDES McLAREN MERCEDES
Idle question – I wonder how many seasons have had a team where both
drivers have been world champions…
Cheers – Jaimie
—
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Comment by admin — February 8, 2010 @ 3:02 pm
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Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote:
> On Tue, 01 Dec 2009 01:10:15 +0000, Mark Jackson
> <mjack…@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote:
> > The "official" entry list has been posted by the FIA (on the
> > deadline set by their 2010 sporting regulations):
> Thanks for that. A lot more change than we’ve seen in the lineup for
> many years – who says an economic downturn is a bad thing?
> > No Driver Entrant Constructor
> > 1 Jenson BUTTON (GB) VODAFONE McLAREN MERCEDES McLAREN
> > MERCEDES 2 Lewis HAMILTON (GB) VODAFONE McLAREN MERCEDES
> > McLAREN MERCEDES
> Idle question – I wonder how many seasons have had a team where both
> drivers have been world champions…
> Cheers – Jaimie
Heh. Discussed at length here a few weeks ago, Brian came up with the
stats, I believe.
–
Paul-B
Comment by admin — February 8, 2010 @ 3:02 pm
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"Jaimie Vandenbergh" <jai…@sometimes.sessile.org> wrote:
> On Tue, 01 Dec 2009 01:10:15 +0000, Mark Jackson
> <mjack…@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote:
>>The "official" entry list has been posted by the FIA (on the deadline
>>set by their 2010 sporting regulations):
> Thanks for that. A lot more change than we’ve seen in the lineup for
> many years – who says an economic downturn is a bad thing?
>>No Driver Entrant Constructor
>>1 Jenson BUTTON (GB) VODAFONE McLAREN MERCEDES McLAREN MERCEDES
>>2 Lewis HAMILTON (GB) VODAFONE McLAREN MERCEDES McLAREN MERCEDES
> Idle question – I wonder how many seasons have had a team where both
> drivers have been world champions…
Two former WDCs in same team
1953-54 Ferrari G Farina (50) & A Ascari (52, 53)
1967-68 Lotus G Hill (62) & J Clark (63 & 65)
1974 McLaren D Hulme (67) & E Fittipaldi (72)
1986 McLaren K Rosberg (82) & A Prost (85)
1989 McLaren A Prost (85-86) & A Senna (88)
Jim Clark was killed in 1968 after competing alongside Hill in the first GP.
A related trivia item.
Former WDC driving #2 (since early in 1973)
1986 McLaren K Rosberg [A Prost #1]
1989 McLaren A Prost [A Senna #1]
1993 Williams A Prost [D Hill #0]
1994 Williams A Senna [D Hill #0]
1994 Williams N Mansell [D Hill #0]
Before 1973 the numbers were not fixed. In 1994 neither Senna nor Mansell drove
in many races. Lewis Hamilton will drive #2 in 2010.
–
Brian
Comment by admin — February 8, 2010 @ 3:02 pm
On Tue, 01 Dec 2009 15:35:27 +0000, "Brian Lawrence"
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<Brian_W_Lawre…@msn.com> wrote:
>"Jaimie Vandenbergh" <jai…@sometimes.sessile.org> wrote:
>> On Tue, 01 Dec 2009 01:10:15 +0000, Mark Jackson
>> <mjack…@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote:
>>>1 Jenson BUTTON (GB) VODAFONE McLAREN MERCEDES McLAREN MERCEDES
>>>2 Lewis HAMILTON (GB) VODAFONE McLAREN MERCEDES McLAREN MERCEDES
>> Idle question – I wonder how many seasons have had a team where both
>> drivers have been world champions…
>Two former WDCs in same team
> 1953-54 Ferrari G Farina (50) & A Ascari (52, 53)
>1967-68 Lotus G Hill (62) & J Clark (63 & 65)
>1974 McLaren D Hulme (67) & E Fittipaldi (72)
>1986 McLaren K Rosberg (82) & A Prost (85)
>1989 McLaren A Prost (85-86) & A Senna (88)
>Jim Clark was killed in 1968 after competing alongside Hill in the first GP.
Thanks – I should have remembered Prost and Senna, at least. Rosberg
was before I started paying attention.
I’m glad you’d already worked this out a while back, Brian – I’d hate
to have put you through the trouble!
Cheers – Jaimie
—
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poor adherence to the laws of physics. This has led NASA to show the
film as part of its management training program. Prospective managers
are asked to find as many inaccuracies in the movie as they can.
Comment by admin — February 8, 2010 @ 3:02 pm
"Brian Lawrence" <Brian_W_Lawre…@msn.com> wrote in message
news:7nkr86F3m0hp9U1@mid.individual.net…
> Two former WDCs in same team
> 1953-54 Ferrari G Farina (50) & A Ascari (52, 53)
> 1967-68 Lotus G Hill (62) & J Clark (63 & 65)
> 1974 McLaren D Hulme (67) & E Fittipaldi (72)
> 1986 McLaren K Rosberg (82) & A Prost (85)
> 1989 McLaren A Prost (85-86) & A Senna (88)
> Jim Clark was killed in 1968 after competing alongside Hill in the first
> GP.
Interesting then that 2010 will be the first time that the two most recent
champions are in the same team
ian
Comment by admin — February 8, 2010 @ 3:02 pm
Ian Hill wrote:
> "Brian Lawrence" <Brian_W_Lawre…@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:7nkr86F3m0hp9U1@mid.individual.net…
>> Two former WDCs in same team
>> 1953-54 Ferrari G Farina (50) & A Ascari (52, 53)
>> 1967-68 Lotus G Hill (62) & J Clark (63 & 65)
>> 1974 McLaren D Hulme (67) & E Fittipaldi (72)
>> 1986 McLaren K Rosberg (82) & A Prost (85)
>> 1989 McLaren A Prost (85-86) & A Senna (88)
> Interesting then that 2010 will be the first time that the two most recent
> champions are in the same team
Nah, that’s happened a lot – 2007, for example (Alonso and Alonso
.
–
Mark Jackson – http://www.alumni.caltech.edu/~mjackson
What’s the point of having a blog if you can’t write
about things that aren’t interesting to anybody else?
- Josh Fruhlinger
Comment by admin — February 8, 2010 @ 3:02 pm
"Mark Jackson" <mjack…@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote in message
news:7nlsv7F3lus8iU1@mid.individual.net…
> Ian Hill wrote:
>> "Brian Lawrence" <Brian_W_Lawre…@msn.com> wrote in message
>> news:7nkr86F3m0hp9U1@mid.individual.net…
>>> Two former WDCs in same team
>>> 1953-54 Ferrari G Farina (50) & A Ascari (52, 53)
>>> 1967-68 Lotus G Hill (62) & J Clark (63 & 65)
>>> 1974 McLaren D Hulme (67) & E Fittipaldi (72)
>>> 1986 McLaren K Rosberg (82) & A Prost (85)
>>> 1989 McLaren A Prost (85-86) & A Senna (88)
>> Interesting then that 2010 will be the first time that the two most
>> recent champions are in the same team
> Nah, that’s happened a lot – 2007, for example (Alonso and Alonso
.
LOL… nice. In that case were there 7 former world champions driving for
Ferrari in ’06?
ian
Comment by admin — February 8, 2010 @ 3:03 pm
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Ian Hill wrote:
> "Brian Lawrence" <Brian_W_Lawre…@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:7nkr86F3m0hp9U1@mid.individual.net…
>> Two former WDCs in same team
>> 1953-54 Ferrari G Farina (50) & A Ascari (52, 53)
>> 1967-68 Lotus G Hill (62) & J Clark (63 & 65)
>> 1974 McLaren D Hulme (67) & E Fittipaldi (72)
>> 1986 McLaren K Rosberg (82) & A Prost (85)
>> 1989 McLaren A Prost (85-86) & A Senna (88)
>> Jim Clark was killed in 1968 after competing alongside Hill in the first
>> GP.
> Interesting then that 2010 will be the first time that the two most recent
> champions are in the same team
> ian
McLaren are experienced at running two WDCs together. Perhaps the
Prost/Senna combination was the best – we’ll see what 2010 brings.
–
Chris
I am not young enough to know everything.
Oscar Wilde (1854 – 1900)
Comment by admin — February 8, 2010 @ 3:03 pm
[Default] Thus spake "Brian Lawrence" <Brian_W_Lawre…@msn.com>:
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>"Jaimie Vandenbergh" <jai…@sometimes.sessile.org> wrote:
>> On Tue, 01 Dec 2009 01:10:15 +0000, Mark Jackson
>> <mjack…@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote:
>>>The "official" entry list has been posted by the FIA (on the deadline
>>>set by their 2010 sporting regulations):
>> Thanks for that. A lot more change than we’ve seen in the lineup for
>> many years – who says an economic downturn is a bad thing?
>>>No Driver Entrant Constructor
>>>1 Jenson BUTTON (GB) VODAFONE McLAREN MERCEDES McLAREN MERCEDES
>>>2 Lewis HAMILTON (GB) VODAFONE McLAREN MERCEDES McLAREN MERCEDES
>> Idle question – I wonder how many seasons have had a team where both
>> drivers have been world champions…
>Two former WDCs in same team
> 1953-54 Ferrari G Farina (50) & A Ascari (52, 53)
>1967-68 Lotus G Hill (62) & J Clark (63 & 65)
>1974 McLaren D Hulme (67) & E Fittipaldi (72)
>1986 McLaren K Rosberg (82) & A Prost (85)
>1989 McLaren A Prost (85-86) & A Senna (88)
>Jim Clark was killed in 1968 after competing alongside Hill in the first GP.
>A related trivia item.
>Former WDC driving #2 (since early in 1973)
> 1986 McLaren K Rosberg [A Prost #1]
>1989 McLaren A Prost [A Senna #1]
>1993 Williams A Prost [D Hill #0]
>1994 Williams A Senna [D Hill #0]
>1994 Williams N Mansell [D Hill #0]
>Before 1973 the numbers were not fixed. In 1994 neither Senna nor Mansell drove
>in many races. Lewis Hamilton will drive #2 in 2010.
a) I know you have this on a massive databse, probably using a 64
processor cluster to access it, but aren’t you afraid that your head
might explode?
b) how many times has a WDC driven for a different team in his
defending year?
—
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Money can’t buy happiness.
But you can rent it.
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"Dillon Pyron" <invaliddmpy…@austin.rr.com> wrote:
> [Default] Thus spake "Brian Lawrence" <Brian_W_Lawre…@msn.com>:
>>"Jaimie Vandenbergh" <jai…@sometimes.sessile.org> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 01 Dec 2009 01:10:15 +0000, Mark Jackson
>>> <mjack…@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote:
>>>>The "official" entry list has been posted by the FIA (on the deadline
>>>>set by their 2010 sporting regulations):
>>> Thanks for that. A lot more change than we’ve seen in the lineup for
>>> many years – who says an economic downturn is a bad thing?
>>>>No Driver Entrant Constructor
>>>>1 Jenson BUTTON (GB) VODAFONE McLAREN MERCEDES McLAREN MERCEDES
>>>>2 Lewis HAMILTON (GB) VODAFONE McLAREN MERCEDES McLAREN MERCEDES
>>> Idle question – I wonder how many seasons have had a team where both
>>> drivers have been world champions…
>>Two former WDCs in same team
>> 1953-54 Ferrari G Farina (50) & A Ascari (52, 53)
>>1967-68 Lotus G Hill (62) & J Clark (63 & 65)
>>1974 McLaren D Hulme (67) & E Fittipaldi (72)
>>1986 McLaren K Rosberg (82) & A Prost (85)
>>1989 McLaren A Prost (85-86) & A Senna (88)
>>Jim Clark was killed in 1968 after competing alongside Hill in the first GP.
>>A related trivia item.
>>Former WDC driving #2 (since early in 1973)
>> 1986 McLaren K Rosberg [A Prost #1]
>>1989 McLaren A Prost [A Senna #1]
>>1993 Williams A Prost [D Hill #0]
>>1994 Williams A Senna [D Hill #0]
>>1994 Williams N Mansell [D Hill #0]
>>Before 1973 the numbers were not fixed. In 1994 neither Senna nor Mansell drove
>>in many races. Lewis Hamilton will drive #2 in 2010.
> a) I know you have this on a massive databse, probably using a 64
> processor cluster to access it, but aren’t you afraid that your head
> might explode?
> b) how many times has a WDC driven for a different team in his
> defending year?
Quickest answer is to repost something Ian Hill posted in the other place:
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> Given Button’s possible move to McLaren, I wondered what history tells us
> about moving teams affects a reigning champion’s prospects for the following
> year.
> Out of 59 previous seasons, the reigning champion has moved teams 10 times,
> with resulting championship positions as follows:
> Years Driver Old Team New Team Position
> =======================================================
> 1951/52 Fangio Alfa Romeo* Maserati 2nd
> 1953/54 Ascari Ferrari Lancia 25th
> 1955/56 Fangio Mercedes* Ferrari 1st
> 1956/57 Fangio Ferrari Maserati 1st
> 1967/68 Hulme Brabham McLaren 3rd
> 1977/78 Lauda Ferrari Brabham 4th
> 1987/88 Piquet Williams Lotus 6th=
> 1989/90 Prost McLaren Ferrari 2nd
> 1995/96 Schumacher Benetton Ferrari 3rd
> 1996/97 D Hill Williams Arrows 12th
> 2006/07 Alonso Renault McLaren 3rd
> * Alfa Romeo left F1 after two dominant seasons, and Mercedes left after the
> 1955 Le Mans disaster, so Fangio didn’t have much choice in the matter on
> either of these occasions. (Mind you neither did Damon Hill in 1997, for
> other reasons).
> (Note that although Jackie Stewart drove for "Matra" in 1969 and Tyrrell
> (with a March chassis) in 1970, I’m counting this as staying in the same
> team as Uncle Ken ran the Matra team in ’69. Stewart finished up 5th in
> 1970).
> Average championship position of a reigning champion who migrated: 5.6
> In 43 seasons the reigning champion stayed with the team with which he won
> the championship. I’ll omit the individual details for brevity but the
> average championship position of the reigning champion who stayed was 4.2.
> In the other 5 seasons, the reigning champion did not compete, either
> through retirement (Stewart, Mansell, Prost), death (Rindt) or both
> (Hawthorn).
> I’ll leave others to draw conclusions about whether or not these figures are
> significant, and what they say for Button’s chances next year…
> While I was at it I decided to also look at which teams were more likely to
> send their champion packing.
> Team WDCs Migrants Percentage
> ==========================================
> Alfa Romeo 2 1 [1] 50%
> Mercedes 2 1 [1] 50%
> Benetton [2] 2 1 50%
> Renault [2] 2 1 50%
> Williams [3] 7 2 28%
> Brabham 4 1 25%
> Ferrari 15 3 20%
> McLaren 12 1 8%
> Maserati 1 0 0%
> BRM 1 0 0%
> Cooper 2 0 0%
> Tyrrell [4] 3 0 0%
> Lotus 6 0 0%
> [1] Forced migration by the team pulling out.
> [2] Could perhaps be thought of as the same team, with no change to the
> percentage…
> [3] Plus two retirements, taking their no-stays to a table-topping 57%!
> [4] As above, I’m counting Stewart’s 1969 championship for Tyrrell rather
> than a separate Matra team.
> regards
> Ian
Comment by admin — February 8, 2010 @ 3:03 pm
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Mark Jackson wrote:
> The "official" entry list has been posted by the FIA (on the deadline
> set by their 2010 sporting regulations):
> No Driver Entrant Constructor
> 1 Jenson BUTTON (GB) VODAFONE McLAREN MERCEDES McLAREN MERCEDES
> 2 Lewis HAMILTON (GB) VODAFONE McLAREN MERCEDES McLAREN MERCEDES
> 3 Nico ROSBERG (D) BRAWN GP FORMULA ONE TEAM BRAWN MERCEDES
> 4 TBA BRAWN GP FORMULA ONE TEAM BRAWN MERCEDES
> 5 Sebastian VETTEL (D) RED BULL RACING RED BULL RENAULT
> 6 Mark WEBBER (AUS) RED BULL RACING RED BULL RENAULT
> 7 Felipe MASSA (BR) SCUDERIA FERRARI MARLBORO FERRARI
> 8 Fernando ALONSO (E) SCUDERIA FERRARI MARLBORO FERRARI
> 9 Rubens BARRICHELLO (BR) AT&T WILLIAMS WILLIAMS COSWORTH
> 10 Nico HULKENBERG (D) AT&T WILLIAMS WILLIAMS COSWORTH
> 11 Robert KUBICA (PL) RENAULT F1 TEAM RENAULT
> 12 TBA RENAULT F1 TEAM RENAULT
> 14 Adrian SUTIL (D) FORCE INDIA F1 TEAM FORCE INDIA MERCEDES
> 15 Vitantonio LIUZZI (I) FORCE INDIA F1 TEAM FORCE INDIA MERCEDES
> 16 Sebastien BUEMI (CH) SCUDERIA TORO ROSSO STR FERRARI
> 17 TBA SCUDERIA TORO ROSSO STR FERRARI
> 18 TBA LOTUS F1 RACING LOTUS COSWORTH
> 19 TBA LOTUS F1 RACING LOTUS COSWORTH
Lotus have just announced Trulli and Kovalainen
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8411249.stm
Marcus
Comment by admin — February 8, 2010 @ 3:03 pm
Marcus wrote:
> Mark Jackson wrote:
>> The "official" entry list has been posted by the FIA (on the deadline
>> set by their 2010 sporting regulations):
And Virgin have announced Glock and Di Grassi
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8412892.stm
No Driver Entrant Constructor
1 Jenson BUTTON (GB) VODAFONE McLAREN MERCEDES McLAREN MERCEDES
2 Lewis HAMILTON (GB) VODAFONE McLAREN MERCEDES McLAREN MERCEDES
3 Nico ROSBERG (D) BRAWN GP FORMULA ONE TEAM BRAWN MERCEDES
4 TBA BRAWN GP FORMULA ONE TEAM BRAWN MERCEDES
5 Sebastian VETTEL (D) RED BULL RACING RED BULL RENAULT
6 Mark WEBBER (AUS) RED BULL RACING RED BULL RENAULT
7 Felipe MASSA (BR) SCUDERIA FERRARI MARLBORO FERRARI
8 Fernando ALONSO (E) SCUDERIA FERRARI MARLBORO FERRARI
9 Rubens BARRICHELLO (BR) AT&T WILLIAMS WILLIAMS COSWORTH
10 Nico HULKENBERG (D) AT&T WILLIAMS WILLIAMS COSWORTH
11 Robert KUBICA (PL) RENAULT F1 TEAM RENAULT
12 TBA RENAULT F1 TEAM RENAULT
14 Adrian SUTIL (D) FORCE INDIA F1 TEAM FORCE INDIA MERCEDES
15 Vitantonio LIUZZI (I) FORCE INDIA F1 TEAM FORCE INDIA MERCEDES
16 Sebastien BUEMI (CH) SCUDERIA TORO ROSSO STR FERRARI
17 TBA SCUDERIA TORO ROSSO STR FERRARI
18 Jarno Trulli LOTUS F1 RACING LOTUS COSWORTH
19 Hekki Kovalainen LOTUS F1 RACING LOTUS COSWORTH
20 TBA CAMPOS META 1 CAMPOS DALLARA
21 Bruno SENNA (BR) CAMPOS META 1 CAMPOS DALLARA
22 TBA US F1 TEAM US F1 COSWORTH
23 TBA US F1 TEAM US F1 COSWORTH
24 Timo GLOCK (D) VIRGIN RACING VIRGIN COSWORTH
25 Lucas di Grassi VIRGIN RACING VIRGIN COSWORTH
26 Team Sauber F1 Sauber ???
27 Team Sauber F1 Sauber ???
Marcus
Comment by admin — February 8, 2010 @ 3:03 pm
On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 11:40:15 +0000, in rec.autos.sport.f1.moderated
Marcus <mar…@eightflames.org> wrote:
>4 TBA BRAWN GP FORMULA ONE TEAM BRAWN MERCEDES
Ook put my money on Michael Schumacher.
Nico
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Disclaimer: the above is the author’s personal opinion and is not
the opinion or policy of his employer or of the little green men
that have been following him all day.
Comment by admin — February 8, 2010 @ 3:03 pm
Marcus wrote:
> Marcus wrote:
>> Mark Jackson wrote:
>>> The "official" entry list has been posted by the FIA (on the deadline
>>> set by their 2010 sporting regulations):
> And Virgin have announced Glock and Di Grassi
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8412892.stm
Kobayashi to Sauber to replace Glock.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8417603.stm
No Driver Entrant Constructor
1 Jenson BUTTON (GB) VODAFONE McLAREN MERCEDES McLAREN MERCEDES
2 Lewis HAMILTON (GB) VODAFONE McLAREN MERCEDES McLAREN MERCEDES
3 Nico ROSBERG (D) BRAWN GP FORMULA ONE TEAM BRAWN MERCEDES
4 TBA BRAWN GP FORMULA ONE TEAM BRAWN MERCEDES
5 Sebastian VETTEL (D) RED BULL RACING RED BULL RENAULT
6 Mark WEBBER (AUS) RED BULL RACING RED BULL RENAULT
7 Felipe MASSA (BR) SCUDERIA FERRARI MARLBORO FERRARI
8 Fernando ALONSO (E) SCUDERIA FERRARI MARLBORO FERRARI
9 Rubens BARRICHELLO (BR) AT&T WILLIAMS WILLIAMS COSWORTH
10 Nico HULKENBERG (D) AT&T WILLIAMS WILLIAMS COSWORTH
11 Robert KUBICA (PL) RENAULT F1 TEAM RENAULT
12 TBA RENAULT F1 TEAM RENAULT
14 Adrian SUTIL (D) FORCE INDIA F1 TEAM FORCE INDIA MERCEDES
15 Vitantonio LIUZZI (I) FORCE INDIA F1 TEAM FORCE INDIA MERCEDES
16 Sebastien BUEMI (CH) SCUDERIA TORO ROSSO STR FERRARI
17 TBA SCUDERIA TORO ROSSO STR FERRARI
18 Jarno Trulli LOTUS F1 RACING LOTUS COSWORTH
19 Hekki Kovalainen LOTUS F1 RACING LOTUS COSWORTH
20 TBA CAMPOS META 1 CAMPOS DALLARA
21 Bruno SENNA (BR) CAMPOS META 1 CAMPOS DALLARA
22 TBA US F1 TEAM US F1 COSWORTH
23 TBA US F1 TEAM US F1 COSWORTH
24 Timo GLOCK (D) VIRGIN RACING VIRGIN COSWORTH
25 Lucas di Grassi VIRGIN RACING VIRGIN COSWORTH
26 Kamui Kobayashi Team Sauber F1 Sauber ???
27 Team Sauber F1 Sauber ???
Marcus
Comment by admin — February 8, 2010 @ 3:03 pm
Marcus wrote:
Musical chairs continues
Sauber have signed McLaren’s test driver Pedro de la Rosa
No Driver Entrant Constructor
1 Jenson BUTTON (GB) VODAFONE McLAREN MERCEDES McLAREN MERCEDES
2 Lewis HAMILTON (GB) VODAFONE McLAREN MERCEDES McLAREN MERCEDES
3 Nico ROSBERG (D) BRAWN GP FORMULA ONE TEAM BRAWN MERCEDES
4 Michael Shumacher (D) BRAWN GP FORMULA ONE TEAM BRAWN MERCEDES
5 Sebastian VETTEL (D) RED BULL RACING RED BULL RENAULT
6 Mark WEBBER (AUS) RED BULL RACING RED BULL RENAULT
7 Felipe MASSA (BR) SCUDERIA FERRARI MARLBORO FERRARI
8 Fernando ALONSO (E) SCUDERIA FERRARI MARLBORO FERRARI
9 Rubens BARRICHELLO (BR) AT&T WILLIAMS WILLIAMS COSWORTH
10 Nico HULKENBERG (D) AT&T WILLIAMS WILLIAMS COSWORTH
11 Robert KUBICA (PL) RENAULT F1 TEAM RENAULT
12 TBA RENAULT F1 TEAM RENAULT
14 Adrian SUTIL (D) FORCE INDIA F1 TEAM FORCE INDIA MERCEDES
15 Vitantonio LIUZZI (I) FORCE INDIA F1 TEAM FORCE INDIA MERCEDES
16 Sebastien BUEMI (CH) SCUDERIA TORO ROSSO STR FERRARI
17 TBA SCUDERIA TORO ROSSO STR FERRARI
18 Jarno Trulli LOTUS F1 RACING LOTUS COSWORTH
19 Hekki Kovalainen LOTUS F1 RACING LOTUS COSWORTH
20 TBA CAMPOS META 1 CAMPOS DALLARA
21 Bruno SENNA (BR) CAMPOS META 1 CAMPOS DALLARA
22 TBA US F1 TEAM US F1 COSWORTH
23 TBA US F1 TEAM US F1 COSWORTH
24 Timo GLOCK (D) VIRGIN RACING VIRGIN COSWORTH
25 Lucas di Grassi VIRGIN RACING VIRGIN COSWORTH
26 Kamui Kobayashi Team Sauber F1 Sauber ???
27 Pedro de la Rosa Team Sauber F1 Sauber ???
5 seats left
Marcus
Comment by admin — February 8, 2010 @ 3:03 pm
[Default] Thus spake Marcus streets <mar…@eightflames.org>:
>Marcus wrote:
>Musical chairs continues
>Sauber have signed McLaren’s test driver Pedro de la Rosa
>No Driver Entrant Constructor
>1 Jenson BUTTON (GB) VODAFONE McLAREN MERCEDES McLAREN MERCEDES
>2 Lewis HAMILTON (GB) VODAFONE McLAREN MERCEDES McLAREN MERCEDES
>3 Nico ROSBERG (D) BRAWN GP FORMULA ONE TEAM BRAWN MERCEDES
>4 Michael Shumacher (D) BRAWN GP FORMULA ONE TEAM BRAWN MERCEDES
Interesting choice of numbers. Ego’s in check?
>5 Sebastian VETTEL (D) RED BULL RACING RED BULL RENAULT
>6 Mark WEBBER (AUS) RED BULL RACING RED BULL RENAULT
>7 Felipe MASSA (BR) SCUDERIA FERRARI MARLBORO FERRARI
>8 Fernando ALONSO (E) SCUDERIA FERRARI MARLBORO FERRARI
>9 Rubens BARRICHELLO (BR) AT&T WILLIAMS WILLIAMS COSWORTH
>10 Nico HULKENBERG (D) AT&T WILLIAMS WILLIAMS COSWORTH
>11 Robert KUBICA (PL) RENAULT F1 TEAM RENAULT
>12 TBA RENAULT F1 TEAM RENAULT
I would like to announce that I did not test for the Renault seat and
I did not get it. I am very excited for this opportunity and the team
believes in my ability to stay out of their way in 2010!
>14 Adrian SUTIL (D) FORCE INDIA F1 TEAM FORCE INDIA MERCEDES
>15 Vitantonio LIUZZI (I) FORCE INDIA F1 TEAM FORCE INDIA MERCEDES
>16 Sebastien BUEMI (CH) SCUDERIA TORO ROSSO STR FERRARI
>17 TBA SCUDERIA TORO ROSSO STR FERRARI
>18 Jarno Trulli LOTUS F1 RACING LOTUS COSWORTH
>19 Hekki Kovalainen LOTUS F1 RACING LOTUS COSWORTH
>20 TBA CAMPOS META 1 CAMPOS DALLARA
>21 Bruno SENNA (BR) CAMPOS META 1 CAMPOS DALLARA
Bizzare choice in numbers. Are they thinking a "name" that might want
20? Ralf? Or maybe, could it be, is there any chance?
VOS IS BOSS!!!!
>22 TBA US F1 TEAM US F1 COSWORTH
>23 TBA US F1 TEAM US F1 COSWORTH
I am now getting discouraged.
>24 Timo GLOCK (D) VIRGIN RACING VIRGIN COSWORTH
>25 Lucas di Grassi VIRGIN RACING VIRGIN COSWORTH
>26 Kamui Kobayashi Team Sauber F1 Sauber ???
>27 Pedro de la Rosa Team Sauber F1 Sauber ???
I am not quite as discouraged, but perhaps Renault is waiting for
Pedro?
>5 seats left
>Marcus
–
- dillon I am not invalid
I love my country, It’s my government I fear.
Hey, turnabout’s fair play.
Comment by admin — February 8, 2010 @ 3:03 pm
In article <idojl5lkk5jgdc4vsmml79tbgv968a6…@4ax.com>,
Dillon Pyron <invaliddmpy…@austin.rr.com> wrote:
> [Default] Thus spake Marcus streets <mar…@eightflames.org>:
> >3 Nico ROSBERG (D) BRAWN GP FORMULA ONE TEAM BRAWN MERCEDES
> >4 Michael Shumacher (D) BRAWN GP FORMULA ONE TEAM BRAWN MERCEDES
> Interesting choice of numbers. Ego’s in check?
Swapped. Apparently Michael likes driving cars with odd numbers.
–
"Don’t let it end like this. Tell them I said something. " – Pancho Villa
"Indiana" Joe Claffey
indianaj…@gmail.com
Comment by admin — February 8, 2010 @ 3:03 pm
And Toro Rosso confirm Jaime Alguersuari
4 left
No Driver Entrant Constructor
1 Jenson BUTTON (GB) VODAFONE McLAREN MERCEDES McLAREN MERCEDES
2 Lewis HAMILTON (GB) VODAFONE McLAREN MERCEDES McLAREN MERCEDES
3 Michael Shumacher (D) BRAWN GP FORMULA ONE TEAM BRAWN MERCEDES
4 Nico ROSBERG (D) BRAWN GP FORMULA ONE TEAM BRAWN MERCEDES
5 Sebastian VETTEL (D) RED BULL RACING RED BULL RENAULT
6 Mark WEBBER (AUS) RED BULL RACING RED BULL RENAULT
7 Felipe MASSA (BR) SCUDERIA FERRARI MARLBORO FERRARI
8 Fernando ALONSO (E) SCUDERIA FERRARI MARLBORO FERRARI
9 Rubens BARRICHELLO (BR) AT&T WILLIAMS WILLIAMS COSWORTH
10 Nico HULKENBERG (D) AT&T WILLIAMS WILLIAMS COSWORTH
11 Robert KUBICA (PL) RENAULT F1 TEAM RENAULT
12 TBA RENAULT F1 TEAM RENAULT
14 Adrian SUTIL (D) FORCE INDIA F1 TEAM FORCE INDIA MERCEDES
15 Vitantonio LIUZZI (I) FORCE INDIA F1 TEAM FORCE INDIA MERCEDES
16 Sebastien BUEMI (CH) SCUDERIA TORO ROSSO STR FERRARI
17 Jaime Alguersuari SCUDERIA TORO ROSSO STR FERRARI
18 Jarno Trulli LOTUS F1 RACING LOTUS COSWORTH
19 Hekki Kovalainen LOTUS F1 RACING LOTUS COSWORTH
20 TBA CAMPOS META 1 CAMPOS DALLARA
21 Bruno SENNA (BR) CAMPOS META 1 CAMPOS DALLARA
22 TBA US F1 TEAM US F1 COSWORTH
23 TBA US F1 TEAM US F1 COSWORTH
24 Timo GLOCK (D) VIRGIN RACING VIRGIN COSWORTH
25 Lucas di Grassi VIRGIN RACING VIRGIN COSWORTH
26 Kamui Kobayashi Team Sauber F1 Sauber ???
27 Pedro de la Rosa Team Sauber F1 Sauber ???
Comment by admin — February 8, 2010 @ 3:03 pm
On 1/22/2010 12:55 PM, Joe Claffey Jr. wrote:
> In article<idojl5lkk5jgdc4vsmml79tbgv968a6…@4ax.com>,
> Dillon Pyron<invaliddmpy…@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>> [Default] Thus spake Marcus streets<mar…@eightflames.org>:
>>> 3 Nico ROSBERG (D) BRAWN GP FORMULA ONE TEAM BRAWN MERCEDES
>>> 4 Michael Shumacher (D) BRAWN GP FORMULA ONE TEAM BRAWN MERCEDES
>> Interesting choice of numbers. Ego’s in check?
> Swapped. Apparently Michael likes driving cars with odd numbers.
That’s the story, anyway. Or he could just have decided to start
exploring how much of the territory he could mark. . . .
–
Mark Jackson – http://www.alumni.caltech.edu/~mjackson
Low effectiveness is a general characteristic of organizations.
- Amitai Etzioni
Comment by admin — February 8, 2010 @ 3:03 pm
Marcus streets wrote:
> And Toro Rosso confirm Jaime Alguersuari
> 4 left
USF1 to confirm Lopez on Monday.
–
Bigbird
#
You’ll be laughing when I’m dead!
Comment by admin — February 8, 2010 @ 3:03 pm
[Default] Thus spake "Joe Claffey Jr." <indianaj…@gmail.com>:
>In article <idojl5lkk5jgdc4vsmml79tbgv968a6…@4ax.com>,
> Dillon Pyron <invaliddmpy…@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>> [Default] Thus spake Marcus streets <mar…@eightflames.org>:
>> >3 Nico ROSBERG (D) BRAWN GP FORMULA ONE TEAM BRAWN MERCEDES
>> >4 Michael Shumacher (D) BRAWN GP FORMULA ONE TEAM BRAWN MERCEDES
>> Interesting choice of numbers. Ego’s in check?
>Swapped. Apparently Michael likes driving cars with odd numbers.
Except he’s driving a car with an even number. Actually, he likes
driving a car with the number 1 on it.
—
- dillon I am not invalid
I love my country, It’s my government I fear.
Hey, turnabout’s fair play.
Comment by admin — February 8, 2010 @ 3:03 pm
[Default] Thus spake Dillon Pyron <invaliddmpy…@austin.rr.com>:
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>[Default] Thus spake Marcus streets <mar…@eightflames.org>:
>>Marcus wrote:
>>Musical chairs continues
>>Sauber have signed McLaren’s test driver Pedro de la Rosa
>>No Driver Entrant Constructor
>>1 Jenson BUTTON (GB) VODAFONE McLAREN MERCEDES McLAREN MERCEDES
>>2 Lewis HAMILTON (GB) VODAFONE McLAREN MERCEDES McLAREN MERCEDES
>>3 Nico ROSBERG (D) BRAWN GP FORMULA ONE TEAM BRAWN MERCEDES
>>4 Michael Shumacher (D) BRAWN GP FORMULA ONE TEAM BRAWN MERCEDES
>Interesting choice of numbers. Ego’s in check?
>>5 Sebastian VETTEL (D) RED BULL RACING RED BULL RENAULT
>>6 Mark WEBBER (AUS) RED BULL RACING RED BULL RENAULT
>>7 Felipe MASSA (BR) SCUDERIA FERRARI MARLBORO FERRARI
>>8 Fernando ALONSO (E) SCUDERIA FERRARI MARLBORO FERRARI
>>9 Rubens BARRICHELLO (BR) AT&T WILLIAMS WILLIAMS COSWORTH
>>10 Nico HULKENBERG (D) AT&T WILLIAMS WILLIAMS COSWORTH
>>11 Robert KUBICA (PL) RENAULT F1 TEAM RENAULT
>>12 TBA RENAULT F1 TEAM RENAULT
>I would like to announce that I did not test for the Renault seat and
>I did not get it. I am very excited for this opportunity and the team
>believes in my ability to stay out of their way in 2010!
>>14 Adrian SUTIL (D) FORCE INDIA F1 TEAM FORCE INDIA MERCEDES
>>15 Vitantonio LIUZZI (I) FORCE INDIA F1 TEAM FORCE INDIA MERCEDES
>>16 Sebastien BUEMI (CH) SCUDERIA TORO ROSSO STR FERRARI
>>17 TBA SCUDERIA TORO ROSSO STR FERRARI
>>18 Jarno Trulli LOTUS F1 RACING LOTUS COSWORTH
>>19 Hekki Kovalainen LOTUS F1 RACING LOTUS COSWORTH
>>20 TBA CAMPOS META 1 CAMPOS DALLARA
>>21 Bruno SENNA (BR) CAMPOS META 1 CAMPOS DALLARA
>Bizzare choice in numbers. Are they thinking a "name" that might want
>20? Ralf? Or maybe, could it be, is there any chance?
>VOS IS BOSS!!!!
Jos, Jos Stupid fingers!
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>>22 TBA US F1 TEAM US F1 COSWORTH
>>23 TBA US F1 TEAM US F1 COSWORTH
>I am now getting discouraged.
>>24 Timo GLOCK (D) VIRGIN RACING VIRGIN COSWORTH
>>25 Lucas di Grassi VIRGIN RACING VIRGIN COSWORTH
>>26 Kamui Kobayashi Team Sauber F1 Sauber ???
>>27 Pedro de la Rosa Team Sauber F1 Sauber ???
>I am not quite as discouraged, but perhaps Renault is waiting for
>Pedro?
>>5 seats left
>>Marcus
–
- dillon I am not invalid
I love my country, It’s my government I fear.
Hey, turnabout’s fair play.
Comment by admin — February 8, 2010 @ 3:03 pm
In article <cll1m5ln9tt3k2e60evgd56qj98hs1g…@4ax.com>,
Dillon Pyron <invaliddmpy…@austin.rr.com> wrote:
> [Default] Thus spake "Joe Claffey Jr." <indianaj…@gmail.com>:
> >In article <idojl5lkk5jgdc4vsmml79tbgv968a6…@4ax.com>,
> > Dillon Pyron <invaliddmpy…@austin.rr.com> wrote:
> >> [Default] Thus spake Marcus streets <mar…@eightflames.org>:
> >> >3 Nico ROSBERG (D) BRAWN GP FORMULA ONE TEAM BRAWN MERCEDES
> >> >4 Michael Shumacher (D) BRAWN GP FORMULA ONE TEAM BRAWN MERCEDES
> >> Interesting choice of numbers. Ego’s in check?
> >Swapped. Apparently Michael likes driving cars with odd numbers.
> Except he’s driving a car with an even number. Actually, he likes
> driving a car with the number 1 on it.
I believe he and Nico swapped numbers, so Michael is 3 and Nico is 4.
–
"Don’t let it end like this. Tell them I said something. " – Pancho Villa
"Indiana" Joe Claffey
indianaj…@gmail.com
Comment by admin — February 8, 2010 @ 3:03 pm
2 left
No Driver Entrant Constructor
1 Jenson BUTTON (GB) VODAFONE McLAREN MERCEDES McLAREN MERCEDES
2 Lewis HAMILTON (GB) VODAFONE McLAREN MERCEDES McLAREN MERCEDES
3 Michael Shumacher (D) BRAWN GP FORMULA ONE TEAM BRAWN MERCEDES
4 Nico ROSBERG (D) BRAWN GP FORMULA ONE TEAM BRAWN MERCEDES
5 Sebastian VETTEL (D) RED BULL RACING RED BULL RENAULT
6 Mark WEBBER (AUS) RED BULL RACING RED BULL RENAULT
7 Felipe MASSA (BR) SCUDERIA FERRARI MARLBORO FERRARI
8 Fernando ALONSO (E) SCUDERIA FERRARI MARLBORO FERRARI
9 Rubens BARRICHELLO (BR) AT&T WILLIAMS WILLIAMS COSWORTH
10 Nico HULKENBERG (D) AT&T WILLIAMS WILLIAMS COSWORTH
11 Robert KUBICA (PL) RENAULT F1 TEAM RENAULT
12 Vitaly Petrov (Rus) RENAULT F1 TEAM RENAULT
14 Adrian SUTIL (D) FORCE INDIA F1 TEAM FORCE INDIA MERCEDES
15 Vitantonio LIUZZI (I) FORCE INDIA F1 TEAM FORCE INDIA MERCEDES
16 Sebastien BUEMI (CH) SCUDERIA TORO ROSSO STR FERRARI
17 Jaime Alguersuari SCUDERIA TORO ROSSO STR FERRARI
18 Jarno Trulli LOTUS F1 RACING LOTUS COSWORTH
19 Hekki Kovalainen LOTUS F1 RACING LOTUS COSWORTH
20 TBA CAMPOS META 1 CAMPOS DALLARA
21 Bruno SENNA (BR) CAMPOS META 1 CAMPOS DALLARA
22 Jose Maria Lopez (Arg) US F1 TEAM US F1 COSWORTH
23 TBA US F1 TEAM US F1 COSWORTH
24 Timo GLOCK (D) VIRGIN RACING VIRGIN COSWORTH
25 Lucas di Grassi VIRGIN RACING VIRGIN COSWORTH
26 Kamui Kobayashi Team Sauber F1 Sauber ???
27 Pedro de la Rosa Team Sauber F1 Sauber ???
Comment by admin — February 8, 2010 @ 3:03 pm
On 2009-11-18 14:55:18 +0100, Marcus <mar…@eightflames.org> said:
> I think that this is the correct team list.
> I have tried to fit in drivers and numbers.
> McLaren inherit the number 1 car along with Button.
> I assume Ferrari will race in traditional numbers
Those days have long since gone. IIRC, the current system is now based
on constructors positions, after the WDC getting 1 & his team mate 2.
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On 2009-11-18 14:55:18 +0100, Marcus <mar…@eightflames.org> said:
> I think that this is the correct team list.
> I have tried to fit in drivers and numbers.
> McLaren inherit the number 1 car along with Button.
> I assume Ferrari will race in traditional numbers
Those days have long since gone. IIRC, the current system is now based
on constructors positions, after the WDC getting 1 & his team mate 2.
–
Stephen M Baines
http://www.alledal.nu
Comment by admin — February 8, 2010 @ 3:03 pm
Stephen M Baines wrote:
> On 2009-11-18 14:55:18 +0100, Marcus <mar…@eightflames.org> said:
>> I think that this is the correct team list.
>> I have tried to fit in drivers and numbers.
>> McLaren inherit the number 1 car along with Button.
>> I assume Ferrari will race in traditional numbers
> Those days have long since gone. IIRC, the current system is now based
> on constructors positions, after the WDC getting 1 & his team mate 2.
Correct. Presumably the four new teams will be at the end (basis of
ordering is unclear). Not obvious where Sauber Qadbak would go (if
their entry is permitted); for that matter one can’t be certain Mercedes
will get 3 & 4 given that Brawn didn’t keep the 18 & 19 due Honda after
2008.
>> Mercedes
>> 3 Nick Heidfeld
>> 4 Nico Rosberg
Nothing official on drivers here at this writing.
–
Mark Jackson – http://www.alumni.caltech.edu/~mjackson
Not knowing is much more interesting than believing
an answer that might be wrong. - Richard Feynman
Comment by admin — February 8, 2010 @ 3:03 pm
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"Mark Jackson" <mjack…@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote:
> Stephen M Baines wrote:
>> On 2009-11-18 14:55:18 +0100, Marcus <mar…@eightflames.org> said:
>>> I think that this is the correct team list.
>>> I have tried to fit in drivers and numbers.
>>> McLaren inherit the number 1 car along with Button.
>>> I assume Ferrari will race in traditional numbers
>> Those days have long since gone. IIRC, the current system is now based on constructors
>> positions, after the WDC getting 1 & his team mate 2.
> Correct. Presumably the four new teams will be at the end (basis of ordering is unclear).
> Not obvious where Sauber Qadbak would go (if their entry is permitted); for that matter one
> can’t be certain Mercedes will get 3 & 4 given that Brawn didn’t keep the 18 & 19 due Honda
> after 2008.
>>> Mercedes
>>> 3 Nick Heidfeld
>>> 4 Nico Rosberg
> Nothing official on drivers here at this writing.
When the three new teams were announced in June (?), they were listed
alphabetically as Campos, Manor & USF1, Lotus were added later when
BMW pulled out. That may be how the FIA will order them, or maybe not.
I believe that the FIA are still keeping the Toyota grid slots ‘warm’,
because Toyota as a current Concorde signatory still effectively ‘own’
those slots. Toyota would have been allocated car numbers 9 & 10, so,
if their place does got to Qadbak/Sauber the numbers may well be
carried over. I suspect that Qadbak may need to buy the grid slots
from Toyota, but who knows?
These are my provisional numbers for 2010:
McLaren 1 & 2 Button & Hamilton
Mercedes 3 & 4 [Rosberg & Heidfeld?]
Red Bull 5 & 6 Vettel & Webber
Ferrari 7 & 8 Alonso & Massa
Williams 9 & 10 Barrichello & Hulkenberg
Renault 11 & 12 Kubica & ?
F India 14 & 15 Liuzzi [& Sutil?]
T Rosso 16 & 17 Buemi [& Alguersuari?]
Campos 18 & 19 Senna
Manor/Virgin 20 & 21 Glock
USF1 22 & 23
Lotus 24 & 25
Qadbak/Sauber 26 & 27
If the Toyota/Sauber swap does occur and Sauber get 9 & 10, the others
(from Williams down) would all move down one place (two numbers).
–
Brian
Comment by admin — February 8, 2010 @ 3:03 pm
Mark Jackson wrote:
>> On 2009-11-18 14:55:18 +0100, Marcus <mar…@eightflames.org> said:
>>> Mercedes
>>> 3 Nick Heidfeld
>>> 4 Nico Rosberg
> Nothing official on drivers here at this writing.
Rosberg’s confirmed. On the other hand Mercedes says they’re in no
hurry to name their second entry, which suggests that, at most, Heidfeld
will get it if something else doesn’t pan out.
So what would "something else" be? I don’t rate the rumors of
Schumacher or Räikkönen, but perhaps Joe Saward’s suggestion of Kubica
(premised on Renault falling back to engine supplier or pulling out
entirely) has some merit?
–
Mark Jackson – http://www.alumni.caltech.edu/~mjackson
Not knowing is much more interesting than believing
an answer that might be wrong. - Richard Feynman
Comment by admin — February 8, 2010 @ 3:03 pm
[Default] Thus spake Mark Jackson <mjack…@alumni.caltech.edu>:
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>Mark Jackson wrote:
>>> On 2009-11-18 14:55:18 +0100, Marcus <mar…@eightflames.org> said:
>>>> Mercedes
>>>> 3 Nick Heidfeld
>>>> 4 Nico Rosberg
>> Nothing official on drivers here at this writing.
>Rosberg’s confirmed. On the other hand Mercedes says they’re in no
>hurry to name their second entry, which suggests that, at most, Heidfeld
>will get it if something else doesn’t pan out.
>So what would "something else" be? I don’t rate the rumors of
>Schumacher or Räikkönen, but perhaps Joe Saward’s suggestion of Kubica
>(premised on Renault falling back to engine supplier or pulling out
>entirely) has some merit?
Well, today’s "report" from Speed TV says that Schumacher continues to
say "we’ll see" and such. And Kimi seems to have written off an F1
ride for 2010.
In other news, it’s been confirmed that I won’t be driving for
USF1.:-)
—
- dillon I am not invalid
"Get a shot off fast. This upsets him long enough to
let you make your second shot perfect."
– Lazurus Long
Comment by admin — February 8, 2010 @ 3:03 pm