Discussion of Formula One racing

Actually this one is interesting. Autosport magazine contacted almost all living F1
drivers and asked them for their all-time (since 1950) top 10. 217 of them responded
and this is the result – no driver could vote for themselves and points were
allocated 10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1

=76  Peter Collins, Luigi Villoresi, Mark Webber, Mike Hailwood,           ***
     Pedro Rodriguez, Eddie Irvine, Andrea de Cesaris, Kazuki Nakajima
 75  Pedro Lamy
 74  Vitantonio Liuzzi
 73  Harry Schell
 72  Stefano Modena
 71  Carlos Pace

 70  Wolfgang von Trips
 69  Maurice Trintignant
 68  Hans Herrmann
 67  Derek Warwick
 66  Johnny Herbert
 65  Jean-Pierre Beltoise
 64  Chris Amon
 63  Aguri Suzuki
 62  Denny Hulme
 61  Bruce McLaren

 60  Tom Pryce
 59  Felipe Massa           ***
 58  Jo Siffert
 57  Alex Zanardi
 56  Tony Maggs
 55  Henri Pescarolo
 54  Mike Hawthorn
 53  Elio de Angelis
 52  Tony Brooks
 51  Juan Pablo Montoya

 50  Michele Alboreto
 49  Jacques Laffite
 48  Lorenzo Bandini
 47  Jody Scheckter
 46  Piero Taruffi
 45  Damon Hill
 44  Didier Pironi
 43  Robert Kubica           ***
 42  Jean Alesi
 41  Jacques Villeneuve

 40  Jacky Ickx
 39  Riccardo Patrese
 38  Jean Behra
 37  Gerhard Berger
 36  Clay Regazzoni
 35  Stefan Bellof
 34  Carlos Reutemann
 33  Phil Hill
 32  Giuseppe Farina
 31  Alan Jones

 30  Jenson Button           ***
 29  Francois Cevert
 28  Dan Gurney
 27  Froilan Gonzalez
 26  Sebastian Vettel           ***
 25  Keke Rosberg
 24  James Hunt
 23  John Surtees
 22  Kimi Räikkönen           ***
 21  Graham Hill

 20  Mario Andretti
 19  Ronnie Peterson
 18  Jack Brabham
 17  Lewis Hamilton           ***
 16  Alberto Ascari
 15  Mika Häkkinen
 14  Jochen Rindt
 13  Nelson Piquet
 12  Emerson Fittipaldi
 11  Nigel Mansell

 10  Gilles Villeneuve
  9  Fernando Alonso           ***
  8  Stirling Moss
  7  Niki Lauda
  6  Jackie Stewart
  5  Jim Clark
  4  Alain Prost
  3  Juan Manuel Fangio
  2  Michael Schumacher
  1  Ayrton Senna

–

Brian W Lawrence
Wantage,
Oxfordshire, UK
Brian_W_Lawre…@msn.com

A new version of the 2010 Sporting Regulations is up on the FIA website
[may need unwrapping]:

http://www.fia.com/en-GB/sport/regulations/Pages/FIAFormulaOneWorldCh…

Includes what we already knew about (e.g. revised point structure with
illogical relationship between 6th, 7th, and 8th) and some I, at least,
did not.  Changes are redlined for easy comparison with the previous
final version.

–
Mark Jackson – http://www.alumni.caltech.edu/~mjackson
     What’s the point of having a blog if you can’t write
     about things that aren’t interesting to anybody else?
                     - Josh Fruhlinger

The "official" entry list has been posted by the FIA (on the deadline
set by their 2010 sporting regulations):

No Driver                  Entrant                   Constructor
1  Jenson BUTTON (GB)      VODAFONE McLAREN MERCEDES McLAREN MERCEDES
2  Lewis HAMILTON (GB)     VODAFONE McLAREN MERCEDES McLAREN MERCEDES

3  Nico ROSBERG (D)        BRAWN GP FORMULA ONE TEAM BRAWN MERCEDES
4  TBA                     BRAWN GP FORMULA ONE TEAM BRAWN MERCEDES

5  Sebastian VETTEL (D)    RED BULL RACING           RED BULL RENAULT
6  Mark WEBBER (AUS)       RED BULL RACING           RED BULL RENAULT

7  Felipe MASSA (BR)       SCUDERIA FERRARI MARLBORO FERRARI
8  Fernando ALONSO (E)     SCUDERIA FERRARI MARLBORO FERRARI

9  Rubens BARRICHELLO (BR) AT&T WILLIAMS             WILLIAMS COSWORTH
10 Nico HULKENBERG (D)     AT&T WILLIAMS             WILLIAMS COSWORTH

11 Robert KUBICA (PL)      RENAULT F1 TEAM           RENAULT
12 TBA                     RENAULT F1 TEAM           RENAULT

14 Adrian SUTIL (D)        FORCE INDIA F1 TEAM       FORCE INDIA MERCEDES
15 Vitantonio LIUZZI (I)   FORCE INDIA F1 TEAM       FORCE INDIA MERCEDES

16 Sebastien BUEMI (CH)    SCUDERIA TORO ROSSO       STR FERRARI
17 TBA                     SCUDERIA TORO ROSSO       STR FERRARI

18 TBA                     LOTUS F1 RACING           LOTUS COSWORTH
19 TBA                     LOTUS F1 RACING           LOTUS COSWORTH

20 TBA                     CAMPOS META 1             CAMPOS DALLARA
21 Bruno SENNA (BR)        CAMPOS META 1             CAMPOS DALLARA

22 TBA                     US F1 TEAM                US F1 COSWORTH
23 TBA                     US F1 TEAM                US F1 COSWORTH

24 Timo GLOCK (D)          VIRGIN RACING             VIRGIN COSWORTH
25 TBA                     VIRGIN RACING             VIRGIN COSWORTH

No major surprises.  Minor surprises:

- While Manor’s expected renaming to Virgin Racing has taken place,
   Brawn’s to Mercedes Grand Prix is relegated to a footnote saying
   they’ve indicated their "intention" to do so.

- Neither Toyota nor [BMW] Sauber is listed.  Another footnote:
   "Toyota Motorsport GmbH remains formally bound by the Concorde
   Agreement to put forward a team for participation, though it has
   indicated that it will not be in a position to do so.  "An
   announcement will be made regarding this entry in due course."
   Whoever ends up running in the 13th slot will evidently be
   assigned numbers 26 and 27; wonder if Bernie will put them at
   the end of the pit lane.

Non-surprises:

- Drivers listed.
– Confirmation of Renault power for Red Bull.  Really, what other
   possibility was there?

Likely red herring:

- The "Constructor" for entrant Campos Meta 1 reflects the folks
   actually building the car ("Campos Dallara"); the omission of
   mention of an engine is almost certainly an oversight.

–
Mark Jackson – http://www.alumni.caltech.edu/~mjackson
     Not knowing is much more interesting than believing
     an answer that might be wrong.    - Richard Feynman

Actually this one is interesting. Autosport magazine contacted almost all living F1
drivers and asked them for their all-time (since 1950) top 10. 217 of them responded
and this is the result – no driver could vote for themselves and points were
allocated 10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1

=76  Peter Collins, Luigi Villoresi, Mark Webber, Mike Hailwood,           ***
     Pedro Rodriguez, Eddie Irvine, Andrea de Cesaris, Kazuki Nakajima
 75  Pedro Lamy
 74  Vitantonio Liuzzi
 73  Harry Schell
 72  Stefano Modena
 71  Carlos Pace

 70  Wolfgang von Trips
 69  Maurice Trintignant
 68  Hans Herrmann
 67  Derek Warwick
 66  Johnny Herbert
 65  Jean-Pierre Beltoise
 64  Chris Amon
 63  Aguri Suzuki
 62  Denny Hulme
 61  Bruce McLaren

 60  Tom Pryce
 59  Felipe Massa           ***
 58  Jo Siffert
 57  Alex Zanardi
 56  Tony Maggs
 55  Henri Pescarolo
 54  Mike Hawthorn
 53  Elio de Angelis
 52  Tony Brooks
 51  Juan Pablo Montoya

 50  Michele Alboreto
 49  Jacques Laffite
 48  Lorenzo Bandini
 47  Jody Scheckter
 46  Piero Taruffi
 45  Damon Hill
 44  Didier Pironi
 43  Robert Kubica           ***
 42  Jean Alesi
 41  Jacques Villeneuve

 40  Jacky Ickx
 39  Riccardo Patrese
 38  Jean Behra
 37  Gerhard Berger
 36  Clay Regazzoni
 35  Stefan Bellof
 34  Carlos Reutemann
 33  Phil Hill
 32  Giuseppe Farina
 31  Alan Jones

 30  Jenson Button           ***
 29  Francois Cevert
 28  Dan Gurney
 27  Froilan Gonzalez
 26  Sebastian Vettel           ***
 25  Keke Rosberg
 24  James Hunt
 23  John Surtees
 22  Kimi Räikkönen           ***
 21  Graham Hill

 20  Mario Andretti
 19  Ronnie Peterson
 18  Jack Brabham
 17  Lewis Hamilton           ***
 16  Alberto Ascari
 15  Mika Häkkinen
 14  Jochen Rindt
 13  Nelson Piquet
 12  Emerson Fittipaldi
 11  Nigel Mansell

 10  Gilles Villeneuve
  9  Fernando Alonso           ***
  8  Stirling Moss
  7  Niki Lauda
  6  Jackie Stewart
  5  Jim Clark
  4  Alain Prost
  3  Juan Manuel Fangio
  2  Michael Schumacher
  1  Ayrton Senna

–

Brian W Lawrence
Wantage,
Oxfordshire, UK
Brian_W_Lawre…@msn.com

A new version of the 2010 Sporting Regulations is up on the FIA website
[may need unwrapping]:

http://www.fia.com/en-GB/sport/regulations/Pages/FIAFormulaOneWorldCh…

Includes what we already knew about (e.g. revised point structure with
illogical relationship between 6th, 7th, and 8th) and some I, at least,
did not.  Changes are redlined for easy comparison with the previous
final version.

–
Mark Jackson – http://www.alumni.caltech.edu/~mjackson
     What’s the point of having a blog if you can’t write
     about things that aren’t interesting to anybody else?
                     - Josh Fruhlinger

The "official" entry list has been posted by the FIA (on the deadline
set by their 2010 sporting regulations):

No Driver                  Entrant                   Constructor
1  Jenson BUTTON (GB)      VODAFONE McLAREN MERCEDES McLAREN MERCEDES
2  Lewis HAMILTON (GB)     VODAFONE McLAREN MERCEDES McLAREN MERCEDES

3  Nico ROSBERG (D)        BRAWN GP FORMULA ONE TEAM BRAWN MERCEDES
4  TBA                     BRAWN GP FORMULA ONE TEAM BRAWN MERCEDES

5  Sebastian VETTEL (D)    RED BULL RACING           RED BULL RENAULT
6  Mark WEBBER (AUS)       RED BULL RACING           RED BULL RENAULT

7  Felipe MASSA (BR)       SCUDERIA FERRARI MARLBORO FERRARI
8  Fernando ALONSO (E)     SCUDERIA FERRARI MARLBORO FERRARI

9  Rubens BARRICHELLO (BR) AT&T WILLIAMS             WILLIAMS COSWORTH
10 Nico HULKENBERG (D)     AT&T WILLIAMS             WILLIAMS COSWORTH

11 Robert KUBICA (PL)      RENAULT F1 TEAM           RENAULT
12 TBA                     RENAULT F1 TEAM           RENAULT

14 Adrian SUTIL (D)        FORCE INDIA F1 TEAM       FORCE INDIA MERCEDES
15 Vitantonio LIUZZI (I)   FORCE INDIA F1 TEAM       FORCE INDIA MERCEDES

16 Sebastien BUEMI (CH)    SCUDERIA TORO ROSSO       STR FERRARI
17 TBA                     SCUDERIA TORO ROSSO       STR FERRARI

18 TBA                     LOTUS F1 RACING           LOTUS COSWORTH
19 TBA                     LOTUS F1 RACING           LOTUS COSWORTH

20 TBA                     CAMPOS META 1             CAMPOS DALLARA
21 Bruno SENNA (BR)        CAMPOS META 1             CAMPOS DALLARA

22 TBA                     US F1 TEAM                US F1 COSWORTH
23 TBA                     US F1 TEAM                US F1 COSWORTH

24 Timo GLOCK (D)          VIRGIN RACING             VIRGIN COSWORTH
25 TBA                     VIRGIN RACING             VIRGIN COSWORTH

No major surprises.  Minor surprises:

- While Manor’s expected renaming to Virgin Racing has taken place,
   Brawn’s to Mercedes Grand Prix is relegated to a footnote saying
   they’ve indicated their "intention" to do so.

- Neither Toyota nor [BMW] Sauber is listed.  Another footnote:
   "Toyota Motorsport GmbH remains formally bound by the Concorde
   Agreement to put forward a team for participation, though it has
   indicated that it will not be in a position to do so.  "An
   announcement will be made regarding this entry in due course."
   Whoever ends up running in the 13th slot will evidently be
   assigned numbers 26 and 27; wonder if Bernie will put them at
   the end of the pit lane.

Non-surprises:

- Drivers listed.
– Confirmation of Renault power for Red Bull.  Really, what other
   possibility was there?

Likely red herring:

- The "Constructor" for entrant Campos Meta 1 reflects the folks
   actually building the car ("Campos Dallara"); the omission of
   mention of an engine is almost certainly an oversight.

–
Mark Jackson – http://www.alumni.caltech.edu/~mjackson
     Not knowing is much more interesting than believing
     an answer that might be wrong.    - Richard Feynman

Actually this one is interesting. Autosport magazine contacted almost all living F1
drivers and asked them for their all-time (since 1950) top 10. 217 of them responded
and this is the result – no driver could vote for themselves and points were
allocated 10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1

=76  Peter Collins, Luigi Villoresi, Mark Webber, Mike Hailwood,           ***
     Pedro Rodriguez, Eddie Irvine, Andrea de Cesaris, Kazuki Nakajima
 75  Pedro Lamy
 74  Vitantonio Liuzzi
 73  Harry Schell
 72  Stefano Modena
 71  Carlos Pace

 70  Wolfgang von Trips
 69  Maurice Trintignant
 68  Hans Herrmann
 67  Derek Warwick
 66  Johnny Herbert
 65  Jean-Pierre Beltoise
 64  Chris Amon
 63  Aguri Suzuki
 62  Denny Hulme
 61  Bruce McLaren

 60  Tom Pryce
 59  Felipe Massa           ***
 58  Jo Siffert
 57  Alex Zanardi
 56  Tony Maggs
 55  Henri Pescarolo
 54  Mike Hawthorn
 53  Elio de Angelis
 52  Tony Brooks
 51  Juan Pablo Montoya

 50  Michele Alboreto
 49  Jacques Laffite
 48  Lorenzo Bandini
 47  Jody Scheckter
 46  Piero Taruffi
 45  Damon Hill
 44  Didier Pironi
 43  Robert Kubica           ***
 42  Jean Alesi
 41  Jacques Villeneuve

 40  Jacky Ickx
 39  Riccardo Patrese
 38  Jean Behra
 37  Gerhard Berger
 36  Clay Regazzoni
 35  Stefan Bellof
 34  Carlos Reutemann
 33  Phil Hill
 32  Giuseppe Farina
 31  Alan Jones

 30  Jenson Button           ***
 29  Francois Cevert
 28  Dan Gurney
 27  Froilan Gonzalez
 26  Sebastian Vettel           ***
 25  Keke Rosberg
 24  James Hunt
 23  John Surtees
 22  Kimi Räikkönen           ***
 21  Graham Hill

 20  Mario Andretti
 19  Ronnie Peterson
 18  Jack Brabham
 17  Lewis Hamilton           ***
 16  Alberto Ascari
 15  Mika Häkkinen
 14  Jochen Rindt
 13  Nelson Piquet
 12  Emerson Fittipaldi
 11  Nigel Mansell

 10  Gilles Villeneuve
  9  Fernando Alonso           ***
  8  Stirling Moss
  7  Niki Lauda
  6  Jackie Stewart
  5  Jim Clark
  4  Alain Prost
  3  Juan Manuel Fangio
  2  Michael Schumacher
  1  Ayrton Senna

–

Brian W Lawrence
Wantage,
Oxfordshire, UK
Brian_W_Lawre…@msn.com

A new version of the 2010 Sporting Regulations is up on the FIA website
[may need unwrapping]:

http://www.fia.com/en-GB/sport/regulations/Pages/FIAFormulaOneWorldCh…

Includes what we already knew about (e.g. revised point structure with
illogical relationship between 6th, 7th, and 8th) and some I, at least,
did not.  Changes are redlined for easy comparison with the previous
final version.

–
Mark Jackson – http://www.alumni.caltech.edu/~mjackson
     What’s the point of having a blog if you can’t write
     about things that aren’t interesting to anybody else?
                     - Josh Fruhlinger

The "official" entry list has been posted by the FIA (on the deadline
set by their 2010 sporting regulations):

No Driver                  Entrant                   Constructor
1  Jenson BUTTON (GB)      VODAFONE McLAREN MERCEDES McLAREN MERCEDES
2  Lewis HAMILTON (GB)     VODAFONE McLAREN MERCEDES McLAREN MERCEDES

3  Nico ROSBERG (D)        BRAWN GP FORMULA ONE TEAM BRAWN MERCEDES
4  TBA                     BRAWN GP FORMULA ONE TEAM BRAWN MERCEDES

5  Sebastian VETTEL (D)    RED BULL RACING           RED BULL RENAULT
6  Mark WEBBER (AUS)       RED BULL RACING           RED BULL RENAULT

7  Felipe MASSA (BR)       SCUDERIA FERRARI MARLBORO FERRARI
8  Fernando ALONSO (E)     SCUDERIA FERRARI MARLBORO FERRARI

9  Rubens BARRICHELLO (BR) AT&T WILLIAMS             WILLIAMS COSWORTH
10 Nico HULKENBERG (D)     AT&T WILLIAMS             WILLIAMS COSWORTH

11 Robert KUBICA (PL)      RENAULT F1 TEAM           RENAULT
12 TBA                     RENAULT F1 TEAM           RENAULT

14 Adrian SUTIL (D)        FORCE INDIA F1 TEAM       FORCE INDIA MERCEDES
15 Vitantonio LIUZZI (I)   FORCE INDIA F1 TEAM       FORCE INDIA MERCEDES

16 Sebastien BUEMI (CH)    SCUDERIA TORO ROSSO       STR FERRARI
17 TBA                     SCUDERIA TORO ROSSO       STR FERRARI

18 TBA                     LOTUS F1 RACING           LOTUS COSWORTH
19 TBA                     LOTUS F1 RACING           LOTUS COSWORTH

20 TBA                     CAMPOS META 1             CAMPOS DALLARA
21 Bruno SENNA (BR)        CAMPOS META 1             CAMPOS DALLARA

22 TBA                     US F1 TEAM                US F1 COSWORTH
23 TBA                     US F1 TEAM                US F1 COSWORTH

24 Timo GLOCK (D)          VIRGIN RACING             VIRGIN COSWORTH
25 TBA                     VIRGIN RACING             VIRGIN COSWORTH

No major surprises.  Minor surprises:

- While Manor’s expected renaming to Virgin Racing has taken place,
   Brawn’s to Mercedes Grand Prix is relegated to a footnote saying
   they’ve indicated their "intention" to do so.

- Neither Toyota nor [BMW] Sauber is listed.  Another footnote:
   "Toyota Motorsport GmbH remains formally bound by the Concorde
   Agreement to put forward a team for participation, though it has
   indicated that it will not be in a position to do so.  "An
   announcement will be made regarding this entry in due course."
   Whoever ends up running in the 13th slot will evidently be
   assigned numbers 26 and 27; wonder if Bernie will put them at
   the end of the pit lane.

Non-surprises:

- Drivers listed.
– Confirmation of Renault power for Red Bull.  Really, what other
   possibility was there?

Likely red herring:

- The "Constructor" for entrant Campos Meta 1 reflects the folks
   actually building the car ("Campos Dallara"); the omission of
   mention of an engine is almost certainly an oversight.

–
Mark Jackson – http://www.alumni.caltech.edu/~mjackson
     Not knowing is much more interesting than believing
     an answer that might be wrong.    - Richard Feynman

Actually this one is interesting. Autosport magazine contacted almost all living F1
drivers and asked them for their all-time (since 1950) top 10. 217 of them responded
and this is the result – no driver could vote for themselves and points were
allocated 10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1

=76  Peter Collins, Luigi Villoresi, Mark Webber, Mike Hailwood,           ***
     Pedro Rodriguez, Eddie Irvine, Andrea de Cesaris, Kazuki Nakajima
 75  Pedro Lamy
 74  Vitantonio Liuzzi
 73  Harry Schell
 72  Stefano Modena
 71  Carlos Pace

 70  Wolfgang von Trips
 69  Maurice Trintignant
 68  Hans Herrmann
 67  Derek Warwick
 66  Johnny Herbert
 65  Jean-Pierre Beltoise
 64  Chris Amon
 63  Aguri Suzuki
 62  Denny Hulme
 61  Bruce McLaren

 60  Tom Pryce
 59  Felipe Massa           ***
 58  Jo Siffert
 57  Alex Zanardi
 56  Tony Maggs
 55  Henri Pescarolo
 54  Mike Hawthorn
 53  Elio de Angelis
 52  Tony Brooks
 51  Juan Pablo Montoya

 50  Michele Alboreto
 49  Jacques Laffite
 48  Lorenzo Bandini
 47  Jody Scheckter
 46  Piero Taruffi
 45  Damon Hill
 44  Didier Pironi
 43  Robert Kubica           ***
 42  Jean Alesi
 41  Jacques Villeneuve

 40  Jacky Ickx
 39  Riccardo Patrese
 38  Jean Behra
 37  Gerhard Berger
 36  Clay Regazzoni
 35  Stefan Bellof
 34  Carlos Reutemann
 33  Phil Hill
 32  Giuseppe Farina
 31  Alan Jones

 30  Jenson Button           ***
 29  Francois Cevert
 28  Dan Gurney
 27  Froilan Gonzalez
 26  Sebastian Vettel           ***
 25  Keke Rosberg
 24  James Hunt
 23  John Surtees
 22  Kimi Räikkönen           ***
 21  Graham Hill

 20  Mario Andretti
 19  Ronnie Peterson
 18  Jack Brabham
 17  Lewis Hamilton           ***
 16  Alberto Ascari
 15  Mika Häkkinen
 14  Jochen Rindt
 13  Nelson Piquet
 12  Emerson Fittipaldi
 11  Nigel Mansell

 10  Gilles Villeneuve
  9  Fernando Alonso           ***
  8  Stirling Moss
  7  Niki Lauda
  6  Jackie Stewart
  5  Jim Clark
  4  Alain Prost
  3  Juan Manuel Fangio
  2  Michael Schumacher
  1  Ayrton Senna

–

Brian W Lawrence
Wantage,
Oxfordshire, UK
Brian_W_Lawre…@msn.com