Discussion of Formula One racing

Button's offering?

Wasn’t it Button that had a public offering a few years back.  Pay up
front for a portion of future earnings?  Did that actually happen and
are the people who got in making any money these days?

dillon

When I was a kid, I thought the angel’s name was Hark
and the horse’s name was Bob.

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Help with USGP swag

Well, I’m not going to the USGP this year (wife’s birthday is Sunday)
and I need some help collecting a little swag.  If you’re going and
are willing to pick up a few things for me, send email to
dmpyron AT austin.rr.com

I’ll pay for both the swag and the shipping, of course.  And something
for your time.

dillon

When I was a kid, I thought the angel’s name was Hark
and the horse’s name was Bob.

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Temporary Problems

Quick note to say there appears to be a small problem with the
moderation server. We are working on it.

Stephen M Baines                        http://www.motorsport.org.uk
http://www.motorsport.org.uk/me

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Semi-OT: Tilke at Nurburgring 24 Hours

So, he designs lousy circuits for a living and races on brilliant ones
for fun – Herman Tilke is making another outing in a V8-Star (spaceframe
with lookalike bodywork) "Jaguar" at the Nurburgring 24 Hours.

The irony of it is just too much sometimes, isn’t it? – the guy who’s
kneeing F1 in the groin taking part in a great enthusiast race on a
great enthusiast circuit ;(

(His car won in the last 4 (6?) hour race there…)

pete

p…@fenelon.com "HOT SPACE STATION! PROTECT SAFETY JUSTICE!"

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Monaco GP Question

I have a question about Monaco.

Why was JP Montoya a lap down?

I was away at a race, and it did not record.
No write ups I’ve read clarify this.

Even if he were way off pace,
(I note RS was going a lap down around
lap 41 Alonso accident) why JPM 1 lap down?
Had he already been lapped before accident?

JPM has a lot of experience with pace cars
coming out and yellow flag laps (from CART etc.).

Nigel Roebuck makes it sound like as the safety car
came out to pick up the leader, Trulli and JPM pitted,
giving lead to MS.  Then JPM pulled out on track
in the train immediately behind MS.

If Trulli knew safety car was coming out and
choose then to pit,  JPM should have known it.
If JPM had been (on track) in front of MS, he
should have delayed his stop to pit a lap later,
thus staying on lead lap, at end of train with
35 or so laps left.

Or, if  MS had already lapped JPM, how did JPM
pass Trulli to be ahead in the train (faster pitstop??)

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Trulli loses his voice

I thought this was rather interesting, so reproduce it here:

begin–>
This weekend, the Monaco Grand Prix winner has to adapt to a strange
set of circumstances. setting the car up in silence! Here’s an
explanation.

As the old adage goes, ‘silence is golden’ and this weekend, Monaco
Grand Prix winner Jarno Trulli is having to prove it. The Italian lost
his voice earlier this week, but has been his usual smiling presence
in the paddock – just a little quieter than normal. The situation has
given the international media some headaches as they have tried in
vain to record the thoughts and impressions of Formula One’s newest
Grand Prix winner, but spare a thought for another group. the Renault
F1 Team race engineers.

In effect, a silent driver has the potential to cause many problems.
With efficiency at a premium under the new one engine per weekend
rules, time is precious – and it is critical for the driver to be able
to communicate his impressions accurately and concisely over the
radio. But what to do when the driver cannot talk?

"Jarno losing his voice has been another small challenge to adapt to
this weekend," explained Executive Director of Engineering Pat
Symonds. "He and his race engineer Alan (Permane) have been
communicating in writing. Each time Jarno comes back into the garage,
he has a pen and paper in the car, and he has been writing answers to
the questions Alan asks. This may have been a slight hindrance during
the sessions, but when debriefing, Jarno has been scribbling away
merrily in the engineering truck, and his speed certainly doesn’t seem
to have suffered!"

Assuming the situation doesn’t improve for tomorrow though, what can
be done in the race? Holding up a sheet of paper with set-up changes
on it as you pass the pit-wall is hardly an option. "Well, we will
just have to employ a little lateral-thinking," concludes Pat. "In
effect, Jarno will end up communicating over the radio by a form of
morse code that we will devise this evening." Just another small
instance of how a team must remain adaptable at all times.
<–end


([:]) by Kimbo!   www.foca.co.uk

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? I am not a moderator.

note: hotmail address is a spam bin,
write to kim at foca_co_uk for a reply

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May 1, 1994


dillon

When I was a kid, I thought the angel’s name was Hark
and the horse’s name was Bob.

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we could have prevented it

The Bush-Clinton Administrations Had Enough Information Before 9/11 to
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Washington, DC:

Independent Presidential Candidate Ralph Nader today urged the 9/11
Commission to highlight the failure of the Bush and Clinton
Administrations to take action to re-enforce the doors of aircraft
cockpits noting: "This single safety step could have thwarted the events
of September 11."

On April 8, when Condolezza Rice testified before the Commission
Investigating September 11, she acknowledged that hardening the cockpits
could have made a difference: "That would have made a difference. We
weren’t going to harden cockpits in the three months that we had a
threat spike."

In fact, the US government had more than enough information prior to the
information generated in the months prior to 9/11 to have taken action
to re-enforce cockpit doors to thwart hijackers and terrorists. In
addition to official intelligence scenarios about the potential for
hijacked planes being used in terrorist attacks in the US against
buildings, there have been 167 hijackings involving US airlines and 11
hijackings involving foreign airlines on US soil since 1970.

"It has been evident for decades that we needed to harden cockpit doors
and strengthen their latches. Some foreign airlines have installed just
that safeguard. The failure of the federal government for years to
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aircrafts into missiles." said Ralph Nader. "The 9/11 Commission, before
its final report, needs to research this situation and come to a
judgment about the reasons for failing to protect airline passengers and
persons on the ground."


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that time I was only 16 years old. And
did not know much difference between girls and boys just wanted to get
marry with Mermaid at that time. Today I don?t really go anywhere or get
into any situation like that or because I do the difference and I also
know that going near anything that can make you do something haram is
not right either. She said she had problem fishing her assignments as I
was the only one who got 98 to 100% she I would help her. She told me
that she lives with a lot of friends so I did go to her place, when I
went there, there was no one but a man named Peter Burnett who even
today terrorises Muslims and is working for some secret service. Anyway
this girl did not bring any home work but in fact tried to have illegal
relationship with me, I did not understand what was happening, but
anyway upon my refusal she brough some drinks, this drink had some
biological thing in it, because after I came back home in a day or two
some strange clots started developing under my skin, where I will
scratch, and if I will scratch these clots, they would get bigger and
bigger.

As I was still asleep, now this girl still kept calling me she said that
I couldn?t join university as I haven?t had paid the fees and she needed
the phone number of the man who was running the student union then etc
etc. Later

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