After all of the following, Is anyone willing to predict exactly what order they will line up in on the grid? ;->
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Round 11, July 11, 2004. Silverstone, Great Britain. Lap distance: 5.141km/3.194 miles Race: 60 laps – 308.355km/191.604 miles
The Stewards, having received a report from the Race Director, have considered
the following matter, determine that a breach of the regulations has been
committed by the competitor named below and impose the penalty referred to.
Car: 17
Driver: Olivier Panis
Competitor: Panasonic Toyota Racing
Time: 14:45
Facts: Impeded another driver on the slow down lap
Offence: Breach of Article 120 of the 2004 FIA Formula One Sporting Regulations
Penalty: Deletion of Driver’s qualifying time
Stewards’ document no. 18:
The Stewards have received a report from the Technical Delegate that after the
second free practice session on Friday the engine of car no. 21, driver Zsolt
Baumgartner, has been replaced.
Having considered the matter, the Stewards of the Meeting decide that the driver
in accordance with Article 86 of the 2004 FIA Formula One Sporting Regulations
will drop ten places on the grid.
Stewards’ document no. 20:
The Stewards have received a report from the Technical Delegate that after the
first free practice session on Friday the engine of car no. 11, driver Giancarlo
Fisichella, has been replaced.
Having considered the matter, the Stewards of the Meeting decide that the driver,
in accordance with Article 86 of the 2004 FIA Formula One Sporting Regulations
will drop ten places on the grid.
Stewards’ document no. 24:
The Stewards have received a report from the Technical Delegate that after the
second free practice session on Friday the engine of car no. 8, driver Fernando
Alonso, has been replaced.
Having considered the matter, the Stewards of the Meeting decide that the driver,
in accordance with Article 86 of the 2004 FIA Formula One Sporting Regulations
will drop ten places on the grid.
Stewards’ document no. 25:
The Stewards have received a report from the Technical Delegate that after the
second free practice session on Friday the engine of car no. 20, driver Gianmaria
Bruni, has been replaced.
Having considered the matter, the Stewards of the Meeting decide that the driver,
in accordance with Article 86 of the 2004 FIA Formula One Sporting Regulations
will drop ten places on the grid
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Who will actually be at the back? Is deletion of your time worse than not having a time?
This makes Bernie’s "vote on it" idea for qualifying look sane. I’m finally coming around to
the bring back the 1 hour free for all idea. But all they can do after qually is add fuel.
That would stop them having 12 lap parts like they used to.
regards,
JohnB
On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 12:20:30 CST, john.barleyc…@earthlink.nospam.net
wrote:
>Who will actually be at the back?
Kimi, he’s going to stall on the grid for the installation lap. ;o)
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<john.barleyc…@earthlink.nospam.net> wrote in message
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> This makes Bernie’s "vote on it" idea for qualifying look sane. I’m
finally coming around to
> the bring back the 1 hour free for all idea. But all they can do after
qually is add fuel.
> That would stop them having 12 lap parts like they used to.
> regards,
> JohnB
Wouldn’t there be more overtaking too? I mean everyone goes light during Q
and then chooses different stategies for the race. If the pole sitter
chooses to brim it in his first stint and the car behind him chooses to go
light, then there’s every chance of passing for the lead, on the track.
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> <john.barleyc…@earthlink.nospam.net> wrote in message
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> > This makes Bernie’s "vote on it" idea for qualifying look sane. I’m
> finally coming around to
> > the bring back the 1 hour free for all idea. But all they can do after
> qually is add fuel.
> > That would stop them having 12 lap parts like they used to.
> > regards,
> > JohnB
> Wouldn’t there be more overtaking too? I mean everyone goes light during Q
> and then chooses different stategies for the race. If the pole sitter
> chooses to brim it in his first stint and the car behind him chooses to go
> light, then there’s every chance of passing for the lead, on the track.
Okay, here’s something I don’t get. I think that most are agreed now
that a big part of F1 racing now is strategy with pit stops and not so
much passing on the track. F1 regulars rightly point out that the
strategy itself can be quite interesting and would rather have this
than NASCAR-style, 2 passes per lap bore-fest. When I first heard
about the qualifying changes that they were making for this season i
thought it added yet another layer of strategy that, to me, was quite
interesting. Why are people complaining about it? If you like
strategy, there is now even more than before!
I was tired of reading comments from drivers about how some slow car
on the track blew their qualifying time. Now they all have a free
track and one good shot (hey, they’re professionals, they should be
able to crank one lap out after a couple of days of practice). The
added "are they running light" and figuring out strategies seems to me
to be a bonus. It certainly hasn’t made the races any more boring and
I don’t think anyone would state that Ferrari still wouldn’t be
kicking everyone’s backside if the rules were like last year.
That being said; if it wasn’t for the danger I’d like to see no fuel
for the whole race.
cheers, John
"JSV" <vetra…@owt.com> wrote in message
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> That being said; if it wasn’t for the danger I’d like to see no fuel
> for the whole race.
Well it would certainly reduce speeds…
Ian
Ian Hill wrote:
> "JSV" <vetra…@owt.com> wrote in message
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>> That being said; if it wasn’t for the danger I’d like to see no fuel
>> for the whole race.
> Well it would certainly reduce speeds…
But dangerous because you could be run over if you slipped while pushing
your car
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On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 10:10:28 CST, vetra…@owt.com (JSV) wrote:
>That being said; if it wasn’t for the danger I’d like to see no fuel
>for the whole race.
Considerably less danger, I would have thought.. The only fuel fires
we have seen for many years now have been pit-stop related.
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> <snip>
> > That being said; if it wasn’t for the danger I’d like to see no fuel
> > for the whole race.
> Well it would certainly reduce speeds…
> Ian
Alright, alright. Give a guy a break
I forgot the word "added".
It does bring to mind the Fred Flinstone car, though!
cheers, JSV
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> > > That being said; if it wasn’t for the danger I’d like to see no fuel
> > > for the whole race.
> > Well it would certainly reduce speeds…
> > Ian
> Alright, alright. Give a guy a break
I forgot the word "added".
> It does bring to mind the Fred Flinstone car, though!
> cheers, JSV
Actually it WOULD reduce speeds. Car all tanked up for the full race
duration, the added weight would make ‘em slower.