Well, that was interesting.
I was glued to the set, except for about ten minutes after "that
pitstop", when Ferrari showed once again that they’re the only people
capable of thinking beyond the confines of a standard race strategy
package. And Michael Schumacher showed again that he simply delivers
whatever Ross Brawn asks of him. Flawed, sure, but genius without
doubt.
Kudos to the ITV team who provided excellent camera work and
direction, following the action not the leaders or local boys. Kudos
also to Alan McNish, who had to have stepped into his role at very
short notice, and performed seamlessly. Still rather see him in a car,
but boy is he a natural at the TV stuff!
Glad to see Trulli survived with health and sense of humour intact,
what looked like a massive accident. While kudos is being handied out,
some for the much maligned Max Mosely, who’s done much to make safe
survival of such incidents much more likely.
And sympathy to Louise Goodman and the rest of John Walton’s friends
and family. A sad and early loss of a familiar face, and an obviously
much loved and respected guy.
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Kim Andrews <some…@hotmail.com> writes:
> Kudos to the ITV team who provided excellent camera work and
> direction, following the action not the leaders or local boys.
I thought the direction was rather choppy, jumping from one thing to
another before my slow old brain could appreciate what I was seeing.
At one point I even thought "curse the invfluence of MTV!"
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answers as ask the right questions.
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Mark Jackson wrote:
> Kim Andrews <some…@hotmail.com> writes:
>> Kudos to the ITV team who provided excellent camera work and
>> direction, following the action not the leaders or local boys.
> I thought the direction was rather choppy, jumping from one thing to
> another before my slow old brain could appreciate what I was seeing.
> At one point I even thought "curse the invfluence of MTV!"
The commentry didn’t help either, not one of Brundle’s better races. He
normally picks up on Allen’s mistakes but he missed several this time.
At the start when Alonso was making his great charge up from the back of the
grid they compared it to Fisi’s poorer effort, despite Fisi having passed
more cars at that point and starting with a much higher fuel load (the
standard Sauber tactic). Later on they kept getting confused when Webber was
in a Renault sandwich and couldn’t work out whether he’d passed or been
passed. I think they handled Button’s pitstop badly as well, we didn’t see
it as it was during an ad break and they made no mention of the fact that
Ruben’s sparring partner had vanished until Rubens himself pitted and came
back out in front. Gene’s battle (with Alonso i think) was also totally lost
on them, one pitted a lap after the other in an attempt to leapfrog with the
stop but they carried on as before.
There were also sub 1s gaps all over the timing screens but very few apart
from the on screen ones were mentioned, Kimi creeping up on Schumy was a
good example. We were watching a different battle but Kimi was getting
closer lap by lap with .3 here, .4 there and all of a sudden we cut to the
battle and are told that Michael must have made a mistake or has got a
problem as the gap has shrunk by 2s in one lap, sorry guys but that wasn’t
what was going on at all.
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On 11 Jul 2004 23:25:01 GMT, mjack…@alumni.caltech.edu (Mark
Jackson) wrote:
>Kim Andrews <some…@hotmail.com> writes:
>> Kudos to the ITV team who provided excellent camera work and
>> direction, following the action not the leaders or local boys.
>I thought the direction was rather choppy, jumping from one thing to
>another before my slow old brain could appreciate what I was seeing.
>At one point I even thought "curse the invfluence of MTV!"
I must be younger than I thought, I didn’t have any problems keeping
up. Coo… thanks! ;o)
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James Hart <ne…@jameshart.co.uk> wrote:
> The commentry didn’t help either, not one of Brundle’s better races. He
Try using the BBC radio commentary with the ITV pictures. In fact,
if you used that, and didn’t bother looking for a while, you could imagine
Michael was in a 312T and Kimi was in an M23, which made it all a little
more interesting
pete
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James Hart wrote:
> Mark Jackson wrote:
>> Kim Andrews <some…@hotmail.com> writes:
>>> Kudos to the ITV team who provided excellent camera work and
>>> direction, following the action not the leaders or local boys.
>> I thought the direction was rather choppy, jumping from one thing to
>> another before my slow old brain could appreciate what I was seeing.
>> At one point I even thought "curse the invfluence of MTV!"
> The commentry didn’t help either, not one of Brundle’s better races.
> He normally picks up on Allen’s mistakes but he missed several this
> time.
> At the start when Alonso was making his great charge up from the back
> of the grid they compared it to Fisi’s poorer effort, despite Fisi
> having passed more cars at that point and starting with a much higher
> fuel load (the standard Sauber tactic). Later on they kept getting
> confused when Webber was in a Renault sandwich and couldn’t work out
> whether he’d passed or been passed. I think they handled Button’s
> pitstop badly as well, we didn’t see it as it was during an ad break
> and they made no mention of the fact that Ruben’s sparring partner
> had vanished until Rubens himself pitted and came back out in front.
> Gene’s battle (with Alonso i think) was also totally lost on them,
> one pitted a lap after the other in an attempt to leapfrog with the
> stop but they carried on as before.
> There were also sub 1s gaps all over the timing screens but very few
> apart from the on screen ones were mentioned, Kimi creeping up on
> Schumy was a good example. We were watching a different battle but
> Kimi was getting closer lap by lap with .3 here, .4 there and all of
> a sudden we cut to the battle and are told that Michael must have
> made a mistake or has got a problem as the gap has shrunk by 2s in
> one lap, sorry guys but that wasn’t what was going on at all.
I agree in one respect and that is that you have to have the live timing up
if you want to know whats going on.
You do get far more tit bits about unseen battles than you used to. With MW
you rarely heard about anything you couldn’t see (and correct for) on
screen.
Once I started using live timing I find it difficult to enjoy watching
without it. I enjoyed Fiscis great drive almost purely in sector/lap times
and gaps. It was clear even before his first pit that he was having a good
afternoon. The SC was perfect timing for his second stop and gifted him 6th
rather than a more likely 8th.
On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 03:00:31 CST, Kim Andrews <some…@hotmail.com>
wrote:
>On 11 Jul 2004 23:25:01 GMT, mjack…@alumni.caltech.edu (Mark
>Jackson) wrote:
>>Kim Andrews <some…@hotmail.com> writes:
>>> Kudos to the ITV team who provided excellent camera work and
>>> direction, following the action not the leaders or local boys.
>>I thought the direction was rather choppy, jumping from one thing to
>>another before my slow old brain could appreciate what I was seeing.
>>At one point I even thought "curse the invfluence of MTV!"
>I must be younger than I thought, I didn’t have any problems keeping
>up.
Me neither, and I have to confess to being a lot older than you. (Nice
philosophy for life, picked up off one of the motoring channels the
other day. From an octogenarian US self-made millionaire riding his
Harley in convoy with others of similar ilk: "The objective is to die
young…..as late as possible.")
There was one jarring cut – from an inboard (can’t remember who) about
to try an overtake, just at the crucial moment. Otherwise I t hought
the camerawork and direction was of a very high standard. Genuine
impression of speed. Maggots/Becketts in particular looked
awesome….although never matching the unbelievable experience of
standing there.
David Betts (dav…@motorsport.org.uk)
"In the end it’s always a matter of more accelerator and less brake" – Frank Gardner
British Racing Green: http://dbetts.motorsport.org.uk/brg
On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 12:50:27 CST, Kim Andrews <some…@hotmail.com>
wrote:
>Well, that was interesting.
Have to agree. It would have been a bit much to expect a race to match
last year’s stormer, but a good one by any other standard. (Nice quote
from Jenks, repeated in the 80th birthday ‘MotorSport’, commenting on
the Villeneuve/Arnoux race at Dijon back in ’79: "……the race for
second place revived the interest of all the Formula One disbelievers.
All races cannot be good, but you should watch all the races so that
when one is good you don’t miss it.")
>I was glued to the set, except for about ten minutes after "that
>pitstop", when Ferrari showed once again that they’re the only people
>capable of thinking beyond the confines of a standard race strategy
>package.
Well, thing is, the extreme strategies only work because they have the
race pace advantage to make it work. There wouldn’t be any point in
anybody else doing it at the moment because they wouldn’t be able to
go quicker once out of sequence. As Jenson said: "We just aren’t quick
enough."
>And Michael Schumacher showed again that he simply delivers
>whatever Ross Brawn asks of him. Flawed, sure, but genius without
>doubt.
Absolutely….and pretty much a flawless season so far, apart from the
Monaco tunnel shennanigans. (As I’ve said before, I don’t blame him
for squeezing Montoya out when he tried to go round the outside that
time, any more than I blame Junqueira for yesterday evening’s little
‘incident’……on which note, why isn’t anybody mentioning Bourdais
for the Williams drive? I suppose because he isn’t beating anybody. So
sad about US single-seater racing.)
>Kudos to the ITV team who provided excellent camera work and
>direction, following the action not the leaders or local boys. Kudos
>also to Alan McNish, who had to have stepped into his role at very
>short notice, and performed seamlessly. Still rather see him in a car,
I’ll be seeing you at Silverstone next month, then.
>but boy is he a natural at the TV stuff!
Little Scotsman with the gift of the gab…..remind you of anyone?
>Glad to see Trulli survived with health and sense of humour intact,
>what looked like a massive accident. While kudos is being handied out,
>some for the much maligned Max Mosely, who’s done much to make safe
>survival of such incidents much more likely.
Agreed. I’m a more than a little sad to see Max being shoved out. I
doubt we’ll get better. We could very easily get much worse,
especially if the ‘little Europeans’ doing the shoving have their way.
We need someone with an understanding not only of the sport but also
of the commercial realities of an expanding World economy. There is no
room for insularity or protectionism.
>And sympathy to Louise Goodman and the rest of John Walton’s friends
>and family. A sad and early loss of a familiar face, and an obviously
>much loved and respected guy.
Very sad.
Getting back to the current discontent with F1 – and people are quick
to forget what a superb season we had just last year, with exactly the
same set of rules – here’s another interesting quote which caught my
eye.
"…..there was too much moaning about the monotony of another …….
1-2. Either those people have short memories or they are new to the
game, because I don’t recall complaints about McLaren, Lotus, Tyrrell,
Cooper and others dominating their particular era of GP racing. These
unknowledgeable people spend too much time trying to dream up ways of
making grand prix racing more enjoyable for the public."
The legendary DSJ again, writing about the Williams domination of
1992.
David Betts (dav…@motorsport.org.uk)
"In the end it’s always a matter of more accelerator and less brake" – Frank Gardner
British Racing Green: http://dbetts.motorsport.org.uk/brg
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> Well, that was interesting.
Those Bridgestones will never get any more pole positions this season, but
their runners will be happy ‘cos it is good at winning races. I’ve never
seen such a big gap in cold tyre performance like this. Strange ‘cos I
thought the Bridgestones perform better in low ambients. Last year it was
Michelin which had ‘phases’. So my crystal ball says Silverstone is purty
much the way the remaining races will shake out, Michelins on pole but
Bridgestones taking the top step and McLaren providing the odd surprise.