Not sure this is a spoiler but better to be sure.
Wow another great race.
My drive of the day went to Liuzzi. Up to about lap 13 he was running
third on projected times and when he stopped was only a couple of
seconds behind Hamilton on graining option tyres so on the prime he
was bound to be a tad quicker meaning after LH’s exit he would have
picked up a podium on his first race back in F1. Not a bad effort. Sad
thing is the commentators concentrated on Sutil and ignored Liuzzi’s
great performance. Also on fuel corrected times Liuzzi matched Sutil’s
qually or maybe even a hundredth quicker.
I’ve also got to give a serve to Legard who said "Good news, Webber is
Off!!!!", and they claim they are not biased, what a load of male cow
excrement.
They also failed to point out that Hamilton would not have been 2
seconds quicker than Sutil if he did not have Kimi slowing him down.
Also Brundle said a two stopper was better! No it was not!!! as shown,
Jeeze they can be stupid!!!
Now I’ve given them a serve I have to say I reckon they are a better
team than last years, Legard has somehow improved Brundle’s commentary
as well.
(a little side note) A bloke sends me an email newsletter from James
Allen and it has improved by a mile this year, he is much better in
print than on a mic. So if you get the opportunity it’s worth the time
to read it.
I had to laugh when Brundle said "Mission control looks relaxed",
bloody bull dung, watch the blokes chewing gum!!@@!! I’m told a few
years back they had a medical team monitor those ‘Mission Control’
blokes and their heart rates go crazy. One problem is they build up a
heap of adrenalin and because they are sitting can’t burn it, that
causes them to yawn especially at the start. A spectator may interpret
that as boredom, it’s not. If you could see inside the drivers helmets
on the grid you’d see them yawn too but after the start they burn off
that adrenalin rather more quickly than the poor ‘Mission Control’
blokes.
Interesting to note that LH was quicker on the prime yet HK was
quicker on the option, hmmm, same thing at Brawn too. Which brings me
to the point that tyres this year are most unpredictable and the
incredibly brilliant engineers do not understand why. That has been
the biggest contributor in creating the unpredictable and exciting
races we’ve had. It occurred to me that FOTA should direct Bridgstone
to keep the tyres as unpredictable as possible which is the opposite
of what the engineers want. That along with banning the Double
Diffuser and a further clean-up of aero may just give us back the
excitement of the early seventies. Especially if these regs were
brought in rather late in the season as along with restricted
resources that would bring about a (more) level playing field.
enough rambling. Who was your driver of the day?
beers,
build
On Sep 16, 10:40 am, build <bui…@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Not sure this is a spoiler but better to be sure.
> Wow another great race.
> My drive of the day went to Liuzzi. Up to about lap 13 he was running
> third on projected times and when he stopped was only a couple of
> seconds behind Hamilton on graining option tyres so on the prime he
> was bound to be a tad quicker meaning after LH’s exit he would have
> picked up a podium on his first race back in F1. Not a bad effort. Sad
> thing is the commentators concentrated on Sutil and ignored Liuzzi’s
> great performance. Also on fuel corrected times Liuzzi matched Sutil’s
> qually or maybe even a hundredth quicker.
> I’ve also got to give a serve to Legard who said "Good news, Webber is
> Off!!!!", and they claim they are not biased, what a load of male cow
> excrement.
> They also failed to point out that Hamilton would not have been 2
> seconds quicker than Sutil if he did not have Kimi slowing him down.
> Also Brundle said a two stopper was better! No it was not!!! as shown,
> Jeeze they can be stupid!!!
> Now I’ve given them a serve I have to say I reckon they are a better
> team than last years, Legard has somehow improved Brundle’s commentary
> as well.
> (a little side note) A bloke sends me an email newsletter from James
> Allen and it has improved by a mile this year, he is much better in
> print than on a mic. So if you get the opportunity it’s worth the time
> to read it.
> I had to laugh when Brundle said "Mission control looks relaxed",
> bloody bull dung, watch the blokes chewing gum!!@@!! I’m told a few
> years back they had a medical team monitor those ‘Mission Control’
> blokes and their heart rates go crazy. One problem is they build up a
> heap of adrenalin and because they are sitting can’t burn it, that
> causes them to yawn especially at the start. A spectator may interpret
> that as boredom, it’s not. If you could see inside the drivers helmets
> on the grid you’d see them yawn too but after the start they burn off
> that adrenalin rather more quickly than the poor ‘Mission Control’
> blokes.
> Interesting to note that LH was quicker on the prime yet HK was
> quicker on the option, hmmm, same thing at Brawn too. Which brings me
> to the point that tyres this year are most unpredictable and the
> incredibly brilliant engineers do not understand why. That has been
> the biggest contributor in creating the unpredictable and exciting
> races we’ve had. It occurred to me that FOTA should direct Bridgstone
> to keep the tyres as unpredictable as possible which is the opposite
> of what the engineers want. That along with banning the Double
> Diffuser and a further clean-up of aero may just give us back the
> excitement of the early seventies. Especially if these regs were
> brought in rather late in the season as along with restricted
> resources that would bring about a (more) level playing field.
> enough rambling. Who was your driver of the day?
> beers,
> build
Another point to note was HK’s disappointing drive. He was in a better
position to win than LH and he should have been on the podium. Some
are saying that that drive was the last nail in his F1 careers coffin,
so I wonder who’ll replace him? I hope it’s not Nico as I reckon the
atmosphere at McLaren will stifle him more than it has Heikki. But, I
do hope Nico gets a car worthy of his talent soon though, he has come
a long way since his early days next to Webber.
What are the current rumours on drivers?
tia
build
build wrote:
> My drive of the day went to Liuzzi. Up to about lap 13 he was running
> third on projected times and when he stopped was only a couple of
> seconds behind Hamilton on graining option tyres so on the prime he
> was bound to be a tad quicker meaning after LH’s exit he would have
> picked up a podium on his first race back in F1.
I think not. They, Räikkönen, and Sutil all had one more pitstop to
make but Liuzzi’s single one, at midrace, would have been significantly
longer than the second for the two-stoppers (who only needed fuel for
1/3, rather than 1/2, of the race). Once ahead of Liuzzi a small speed
disadvantage in the final stint would have been irrelevant. Eyeballing
the race history chart at Forix I can’t see how Liuzzi could have done
better than finishing ahead of Alonso (who he was only about 2 sec up on
when he retired), in 6th.
Excellent drive, though – suggests that "no testing allowed" is not a
sufficient explanation for the lack of speed shown by the other
midseason replacements.
> Interesting to note that LH was quicker on the prime yet HK was
> quicker on the option, hmmm, same thing at Brawn too.
But it appears Rubens suffered less on the "bad" tire (for him, the
mediums) than did Button (on the softs).
> enough rambling. Who was your driver of the day?
Sutil; I put Liuzzi second. Nobody else stood out.
–
Mark Jackson – http://www.alumni.caltech.edu/~mjackson
Sometimes I mistake your existential crises
for technical insights. - Randall Munroe
On Sep 16, 11:35 am, Mark Jackson <mjack…@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote:
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> build wrote:
> > My drive of the day went to Liuzzi. Up to about lap 13 he was running
> > third on projected times and when he stopped was only a couple of
> > seconds behind Hamilton on graining option tyres so on the prime he
> > was bound to be a tad quicker meaning after LH’s exit he would have
> > picked up a podium on his first race back in F1.
> I think not. They, Räikkönen, and Sutil all had one more pitstop to
> make but Liuzzi’s single one, at midrace, would have been significantly
> longer than the second for the two-stoppers (who only needed fuel for
> 1/3, rather than 1/2, of the race). Once ahead of Liuzzi a small speed
> disadvantage in the final stint would have been irrelevant. Eyeballing
> the race history chart at Forix I can’t see how Liuzzi could have done
> better than finishing ahead of Alonso (who he was only about 2 sec up on
> when he retired), in 6th.
> Excellent drive, though – suggests that "no testing allowed" is not a
> sufficient explanation for the lack of speed shown by the other
> midseason replacements.
> > Interesting to note that LH was quicker on the prime yet HK was
> > quicker on the option, hmmm, same thing at Brawn too.
> But it appears Rubens suffered less on the "bad" tire (for him, the
> mediums) than did Button (on the softs).
> > enough rambling. Who was your driver of the day?
> Sutil; I put Liuzzi second. Nobody else stood out.
> —
> Mark Jackson -http://www.alumni.caltech.edu/~mjackson
G’day Mark,
Thanks for your reply, I don’t disagree with you but just a few
points.
Liuzzi had to preserve his option tyres, hence the gap to JB. I think
the team made a mistake by not warning him to close the gap to prevent
LH coming out in front of him (I don’t think the commentators covered
that either, did they?). That would have been worth the tyre sacrifice
as JB was longer than him anyway and his in-lap would be limited by JB
or LH anyway. His lap times on the prime and in clean air were going
to be at least 2 to 4 tenths quicker so the elongated stop would have
been compensated quite easily in my opinion. In any case it’s all
hypothetical and as you say regardless, for a race return with no
testing it was a great drive. It will be interesting to compare them
in Japan.
I think the explanation for the Brawn difference was that Rubins had
clean air whereas Jenson had to maintain a two second (clean air) gap
to preserve his options, Rubins didn’t, hence was faster … maybe.
I’m of the school that thinks RB has a tad (just a tad) more than JB
and if they’re together next year I think it will become more
apparent.
While I agree AS or VL get the ‘drive of the day’ we can’t neglect the
drives from RB, JB, FA and LH, it’s just that we expect those blokes
to drive well every race and only recognise them when they are better
than their already exceptional skills.
One thing I’m missing this year is those exceptional performances from
TorroRosso so it’s good to see Force India filling the void.
Anyone else?
beers,
build
In article
<e219c3ea-a4bd-4fd1-8c88-5627e2384…@j9g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
build <bui…@gmail.com> writes:
> I’ve also got to give a serve to Legard who said "Good news, Webber is
> Off!!!!", and they claim they are not biased, what a load of male cow
> excrement.
I didn’t hear him say that, which is not to say that he didn’t. ICBA
to check it up on iplayer.
–
Mike Fleming
Mike Fleming wrote:
> In article
> <e219c3ea-a4bd-4fd1-8c88-5627e2384…@j9g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
> build <bui…@gmail.com> writes:
> > I’ve also got to give a serve to Legard who said "Good news, Webber
> > is Off!!!!", and they claim they are not biased, what a load of
> > male cow excrement.
> I didn’t hear him say that, which is not to say that he didn’t. ICBA
> to check it up on iplayer.
ISTR that the actual commentary went something like "Webber is off,
which is good news for Brawn".
–
Paul-B
In article <7hc70iF2ss9a…@mid.individual.net>, p…@rasf1.net says…
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> Mike Fleming wrote:
> > In article
> > <e219c3ea-a4bd-4fd1-8c88-5627e2384…@j9g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
> > build <bui…@gmail.com> writes:
> > > I’ve also got to give a serve to Legard who said "Good news, Webber
> > > is Off!!!!", and they claim they are not biased, what a load of
> > > male cow excrement.
> > I didn’t hear him say that, which is not to say that he didn’t. ICBA
> > to check it up on iplayer.
> ISTR that the actual commentary went something like "Webber is off,
> which is good news for Brawn".
Yep, that matches my recollection.
–
Cheers, Kimbo
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