According to ITV teletext the positions of the grid have been re-painted
to avoid the pole sitter being disadvantaged heavily by the bricks on
the track. Seems fair – though it is merely more ammunition for the
anti-Ferrari camp.
Fraser.
November 30, 2009
{SPOILER} Regarding the grid
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In article <39CE057F.13536…@madasafish.com>,
Fraser Stewart <fstew…@madasafish.com> writes:
> According to ITV teletext the positions of the grid have been
> re-painted to avoid the pole sitter being disadvantaged heavily by
> the bricks on the track. Seems fair – though it is merely more
> ammunition for the anti-Ferrari camp.
I heard on Radio 5 that it was because Ferrari protested.
–
There are no facts, only opinions
Comment by admin — November 30, 2009 @ 6:23 pm
"Ian Rawlings" <i…@tarcus.org.uk> wrote in message
news:8qlqdh$nnf$3@lap.tarcus.org.uk…
> In article <39CE057F.13536…@madasafish.com>,
> Fraser Stewart <fstew…@madasafish.com> writes:
> > According to ITV teletext the positions of the grid have been
> > re-painted to avoid the pole sitter being disadvantaged heavily by
> > the bricks on the track. Seems fair – though it is merely more
> > ammunition for the anti-Ferrari camp.
> I heard on Radio 5 that it was because Ferrari protested.
It would probably had some impact if they’d remained where they were. Indy
doesn’t usually do standing starts, so in the recent past it’s never been a
consideration.
Gerry Donaldson (TSN.ca) said some teams suggested that they pave over the 1
yard of bricks. Not much of a chance of that happening. They seemed
satisfied with simply moving the grid back 18 feet.
TC
Comment by admin — November 30, 2009 @ 6:23 pm
I heard a couple of stories:
1. Michael Schumacher complained as the pole sitter would be disadvantaged.
2. Ferrari complained as the pole sitter would be disadvantaged.
3. The track developers were unable to fit sufficient sensors under the grid
to detect false starts and so planned to use a grid configuration that was
set back from the ‘brick-yard’ before any complaints were raised. The fact
that the grid had to be repainted before Race Day to suit this ‘alleged’
planned formation weakens this story somewhat. But I’ll leave it to you all
to decide for yourselves.
1 and 2 were both credited to Teletext so I’ll assume they’re both the same
story, twisted slightly.
3 was the story given during the pre-race chat from ITV.
On a slightly different topic, can anyone shed some light on the following
two incident involving Rubens Barrichello:
1. Overtaking under caution – I’m pretty sure I saw RB overtake a Prost on
the Start/Finish straight about two laps after a car died and came to rest
against the pit board wall. There would have been Yellow caution flags on
display at that point and I thought you weren’t allowed to pass when a
caution flag is displayed.
2. Faking a pit-stop – When RB was chasing HHF, Frentzen was seen to dive
into the pits at a less than ideal moment for his pit-stop leaving RB clear
to charge for a little while with a clear track ahead of him. HHF’s
pit-stop was Jordan’s reaction to RB’s mechanics entering the pit lane and
preparing for a stop (air guns, wheels, fuel rig etc.) before packing up and
returning to the garage once Frentzen passed them. Is this allowed, I
thought they had introduced a rule to stop this from happening a few years
ago to stop the fakes and feignts which were detracting from the sport. I
think it was something along the lines of, the mechanics are not allowed out
into the pitlane more than 3 laps before your pit-stop.
If anyone can clarify these points I would be very grateful.
Ian Rawlings wrote in message <8qlqdh$nn…@lap.tarcus.org.uk>…
In article <39CE057F.13536…@madasafish.com>,
Fraser Stewart <fstew…@madasafish.com> writes:
> According to ITV teletext the positions of the grid have been
> re-painted to avoid the pole sitter being disadvantaged heavily by
> the bricks on the track. Seems fair – though it is merely more
> ammunition for the anti-Ferrari camp.
I heard on Radio 5 that it was because Ferrari protested.
–
There are no facts, only opinions
Comment by admin — November 30, 2009 @ 6:23 pm
Danny Bellis <Da…@hehehe.bellisnet.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
: I heard a couple of stories:
: 3. The track developers were unable to fit sufficient sensors under the grid
: to detect false starts and so planned to use a grid configuration that was
: set back from the ‘brick-yard’ before any complaints were raised. The fact
: that the grid had to be repainted before Race Day to suit this ‘alleged’
: planned formation weakens this story somewhat. But I’ll leave it to you all
: to decide for yourselves.
: 3 was the story given during the pre-race chat from ITV.
>From what I remember of the pre-race stuff on the ITV coverage, they said
that they wanted to move the grid further back, but were unable to as
there were no sensors on what would have been grid slots 25&26 (if you see
what I mean).
: On a slightly different topic, can anyone shed some light on the following
: two incident involving Rubens Barrichello:
: 2. Faking a pit-stop – When RB was chasing HHF, Frentzen was seen to dive
I also have been wondering about pit stop feints, but I wonder if the rule
prevents the pit crew from ‘cluttering’ the pit lane for too maney laps
before a driver comes in. Besides, it can alway be described as the pit
crew coming out in preparation for a problem that the driver is reporting.
I seem to remember on a couple of occasions pit crews have come out when a
driver _might_ be about to pit for a problem.
Chris
Comment by admin — November 30, 2009 @ 6:23 pm
In article <8qlqdh$nn…@lap.tarcus.org.uk>,
Ian Rawlings <i…@tarcus.org.uk> wrote:
> In article <39CE057F.13536…@madasafish.com>,
> Fraser Stewart <fstew…@madasafish.com> writes:
> > According to ITV teletext the positions of the grid have been
> > re-painted to avoid the pole sitter being disadvantaged heavily by
> > the bricks on the track. Seems fair – though it is merely more
> > ammunition for the anti-Ferrari camp.
> I heard on Radio 5 that it was because Ferrari protested.
On ITV2 they said that Charlie Whiting would have preferred moving
things back further but the false start sensors didn’t go back far
enough. So the organisers had safety concerns quite apart from Ferrari.
Although I do think that they shouldn’t change things between
qualifying and the actual race.
John Haines
Comment by admin — November 30, 2009 @ 6:23 pm