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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 15:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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  In article &lt;8qlqdh$nn...@lap.tarcus.org.uk&gt;, &lt;br /&gt; &#160; &#160;Ian Rawlings &lt;i...@tarcus.org.uk&gt; wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;&gt; In article &lt;39CE057F.13536...@madasafish.com&gt;, &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &#160; &#160;Fraser Stewart &lt;fstew...@madasafish.com&gt; writes: &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt; According to ITV teletext the positions of the grid have been &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt; re-painted to avoid the pole sitter being disadvantaged heavily by &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt; the bricks on the track. &#160;Seems fair - though it is merely more &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt; ammunition for the anti-Ferrari camp. &lt;br /&gt; &gt; I heard on Radio 5 that it was because Ferrari protested. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;On ITV2 they said that Charlie Whiting would have preferred moving &lt;br /&gt; things back further but the false start sensors didn&#039;t go back far &lt;br /&gt; enough. So the organisers had safety concerns quite apart from Ferrari. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Although I do think that they shouldn&#039;t change things between &lt;br /&gt; qualifying and the actual race. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;John Haines &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In article &lt;8qlqdh$nn&#8230;@lap.tarcus.org.uk&gt;, <br /> &nbsp; &nbsp;Ian Rawlings &lt;i&#8230;@tarcus.org.uk&gt; wrote: <br /> 
<p>&gt; In article &lt;39CE057F.13536&#8230;@madasafish.com&gt;, <br /> &gt; &nbsp; &nbsp;Fraser Stewart &lt;fstew&#8230;@madasafish.com&gt; writes: <br /> &gt; &gt; According to ITV teletext the positions of the grid have been <br /> &gt; &gt; re-painted to avoid the pole sitter being disadvantaged heavily by <br /> &gt; &gt; the bricks on the track. &nbsp;Seems fair &#8211; though it is merely more <br /> &gt; &gt; ammunition for the anti-Ferrari camp. <br /> &gt; I heard on Radio 5 that it was because Ferrari protested. </p>
<p>On ITV2 they said that Charlie Whiting would have preferred moving <br /> things back further but the false start sensors didn&#8217;t go back far <br /> enough. So the organisers had safety concerns quite apart from Ferrari.  </p>
<p>Although I do think that they shouldn&#8217;t change things between <br /> qualifying and the actual race.  </p>
<p>John Haines </p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 15:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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  Danny Bellis &lt;Da...@hehehe.bellisnet.freeserve.co.uk&gt; wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;: I heard a couple of stories: &lt;br /&gt; : 3. The track developers were unable to fit sufficient sensors under the grid &lt;br /&gt; : to detect false starts and so planned to use a grid configuration that was &lt;br /&gt; : set back from the &#039;brick-yard&#039; before any complaints were raised. &#160;The fact &lt;br /&gt; : that the grid had to be repainted before Race Day to suit this &#039;alleged&#039; &lt;br /&gt; : planned formation weakens this story somewhat. &#160;But I&#039;ll leave it to you all &lt;br /&gt; : to decide for yourselves. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;: 3 was the story given during the pre-race chat from ITV. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;From what I remember of the pre-race stuff on the ITV coverage, they said &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;that they wanted to move the grid further back, but were unable to as &lt;br /&gt; there were no sensors on what would have been grid slots 25&amp;26 (if you see &lt;br /&gt; what I mean). &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;: On a slightly different topic, can anyone shed some light on the following &lt;br /&gt; : two incident involving Rubens Barrichello: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;: 2. Faking a pit-stop - When RB was chasing HHF, Frentzen was seen to dive &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I also have been wondering about pit stop feints, but I wonder if the rule &lt;br /&gt; prevents the pit crew from &#039;cluttering&#039; the pit lane for too maney laps &lt;br /&gt; before a driver comes in. &#160;Besides, it can alway be described as the pit &lt;br /&gt; crew coming out in preparation for a problem that the driver is reporting. &lt;br /&gt; I seem to remember on a couple of occasions pit crews have come out when a &lt;br /&gt; driver _might_ be about to pit for a problem. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Chris &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danny Bellis &lt;Da&#8230;@hehehe.bellisnet.freeserve.co.uk&gt; wrote: </p>
<p>: I heard a couple of stories: <br /> : 3. The track developers were unable to fit sufficient sensors under the grid <br /> : to detect false starts and so planned to use a grid configuration that was <br /> : set back from the &#8216;brick-yard&#8217; before any complaints were raised. &nbsp;The fact <br /> : that the grid had to be repainted before Race Day to suit this &#8216;alleged&#8217; <br /> : planned formation weakens this story somewhat. &nbsp;But I&#8217;ll leave it to you all <br /> : to decide for yourselves. <br /> 
<p>: 3 was the story given during the pre-race chat from ITV.  </p>
<p>&gt;From what I remember of the pre-race stuff on the ITV coverage, they said </p>
<p>that they wanted to move the grid further back, but were unable to as <br /> there were no sensors on what would have been grid slots 25&amp;26 (if you see <br /> what I mean).  </p>
<p>: On a slightly different topic, can anyone shed some light on the following <br /> : two incident involving Rubens Barrichello:  </p>
<p>: 2. Faking a pit-stop &#8211; When RB was chasing HHF, Frentzen was seen to dive  </p>
<p>I also have been wondering about pit stop feints, but I wonder if the rule <br /> prevents the pit crew from &#8216;cluttering&#8217; the pit lane for too maney laps <br /> before a driver comes in. &nbsp;Besides, it can alway be described as the pit <br /> crew coming out in preparation for a problem that the driver is reporting. <br /> I seem to remember on a couple of occasions pit crews have come out when a <br /> driver _might_ be about to pit for a problem.  </p>
<p>Chris </p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 15:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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  &lt;p&gt;&quot;Ian Rawlings&quot; &lt;i...@tarcus.org.uk&gt; wrote in message &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;news:8qlqdh$nnf$3@lap.tarcus.org.uk... &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; In article &lt;39CE057F.13536...@madasafish.com&gt;, &lt;br /&gt; &gt; Fraser Stewart &lt;fstew...@madasafish.com&gt; writes: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; &gt; According to ITV teletext the positions of the grid have been &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt; re-painted to avoid the pole sitter being disadvantaged heavily by &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt; the bricks on the track. &#160;Seems fair - though it is merely more &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt; ammunition for the anti-Ferrari camp. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; I heard on Radio 5 that it was because Ferrari protested. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;It would probably had some impact if they&#039;d remained where they were. Indy &lt;br /&gt; doesn&#039;t usually do standing starts, so in the recent past it&#039;s never been a &lt;br /&gt; consideration. &lt;br /&gt; Gerry Donaldson (TSN.ca) said some teams suggested that they pave over the 1 &lt;br /&gt; yard of bricks. &#160;Not much of a chance of that happening. &#160;They seemed &lt;br /&gt; satisfied with simply moving the grid back 18 feet. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;TC &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Ian Rawlings&quot; &lt;i&#8230;@tarcus.org.uk&gt; wrote in message </p>
<p>news:8qlqdh$nnf$3@lap.tarcus.org.uk&#8230;  </p>
<p>&gt; In article &lt;39CE057F.13536&#8230;@madasafish.com&gt;, <br /> &gt; Fraser Stewart &lt;fstew&#8230;@madasafish.com&gt; writes:  </p>
<p>&gt; &gt; According to ITV teletext the positions of the grid have been <br /> &gt; &gt; re-painted to avoid the pole sitter being disadvantaged heavily by <br /> &gt; &gt; the bricks on the track. &nbsp;Seems fair &#8211; though it is merely more <br /> &gt; &gt; ammunition for the anti-Ferrari camp.  </p>
<p>&gt; I heard on Radio 5 that it was because Ferrari protested. </p>
<p>It would probably had some impact if they&#8217;d remained where they were. Indy <br /> doesn&#8217;t usually do standing starts, so in the recent past it&#8217;s never been a <br /> consideration. <br /> Gerry Donaldson (TSN.ca) said some teams suggested that they pave over the 1 <br /> yard of bricks. &nbsp;Not much of a chance of that happening. &nbsp;They seemed <br /> satisfied with simply moving the grid back 18 feet.  </p>
<p>TC </p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 15:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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  I heard a couple of stories: &lt;br /&gt; 1. Michael Schumacher complained as the pole sitter would be disadvantaged. &lt;br /&gt; 2. Ferrari complained as the pole sitter would be disadvantaged. &lt;br /&gt; 3. The track developers were unable to fit sufficient sensors under the grid &lt;br /&gt; to detect false starts and so planned to use a grid configuration that was &lt;br /&gt; set back from the &#039;brick-yard&#039; before any complaints were raised. &#160;The fact &lt;br /&gt; that the grid had to be repainted before Race Day to suit this &#039;alleged&#039; &lt;br /&gt; planned formation weakens this story somewhat. &#160;But I&#039;ll leave it to you all &lt;br /&gt; to decide for yourselves. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;1 and 2 were both credited to Teletext so I&#039;ll assume they&#039;re both the same &lt;br /&gt; story, twisted slightly. &lt;br /&gt; 3 was the story given during the pre-race chat from ITV. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;On a slightly different topic, can anyone shed some light on the following &lt;br /&gt; two incident involving Rubens Barrichello: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;1. Overtaking under caution - I&#039;m pretty sure I saw RB overtake a Prost on &lt;br /&gt; the Start/Finish straight about two laps after a car died and came to rest &lt;br /&gt; against the pit board wall. &#160;There would have been Yellow caution flags on &lt;br /&gt; display at that point and I thought you weren&#039;t allowed to pass when a &lt;br /&gt; caution flag is displayed. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;2. Faking a pit-stop - When RB was chasing HHF, Frentzen was seen to dive &lt;br /&gt; into the pits at a less than ideal moment for his pit-stop leaving RB clear &lt;br /&gt; to charge for a little while with a clear track ahead of him. &#160;HHF&#039;s &lt;br /&gt; pit-stop was Jordan&#039;s reaction to RB&#039;s mechanics entering the pit lane and &lt;br /&gt; preparing for a stop (air guns, wheels, fuel rig etc.) before packing up and &lt;br /&gt; returning to the garage once Frentzen passed them. &#160;Is this allowed, I &lt;br /&gt; thought they had introduced a rule to stop this from happening a few years &lt;br /&gt; ago to stop the fakes and feignts which were detracting from the sport. &#160;I &lt;br /&gt; think it was something along the lines of, the mechanics are not allowed out &lt;br /&gt; into the pitlane more than 3 laps before your pit-stop. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;If anyone can clarify these points I would be very grateful. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Ian Rawlings wrote in message &lt;8qlqdh$nn...@lap.tarcus.org.uk&gt;... &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;In article &lt;39CE057F.13536...@madasafish.com&gt;, &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Fraser Stewart &lt;fstew...@madasafish.com&gt; writes: &lt;br /&gt; &gt; According to ITV teletext the positions of the grid have been &lt;br /&gt; &gt; re-painted to avoid the pole sitter being disadvantaged heavily by &lt;br /&gt; &gt; the bricks on the track. &#160;Seems fair - though it is merely more &lt;br /&gt; &gt; ammunition for the anti-Ferrari camp. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;I heard on Radio 5 that it was because Ferrari protested. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;-- &lt;br /&gt; There are no facts, only opinions &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard a couple of stories: <br /> 1. Michael Schumacher complained as the pole sitter would be disadvantaged. <br /> 2. Ferrari complained as the pole sitter would be disadvantaged. <br /> 3. The track developers were unable to fit sufficient sensors under the grid <br /> to detect false starts and so planned to use a grid configuration that was <br /> set back from the &#8216;brick-yard&#8217; before any complaints were raised. &nbsp;The fact <br /> that the grid had to be repainted before Race Day to suit this &#8216;alleged&#8217; <br /> planned formation weakens this story somewhat. &nbsp;But I&#8217;ll leave it to you all <br /> to decide for yourselves. <br /> 
<p>1 and 2 were both credited to Teletext so I&#8217;ll assume they&#8217;re both the same <br /> story, twisted slightly. <br /> 3 was the story given during the pre-race chat from ITV.  </p>
<p>On a slightly different topic, can anyone shed some light on the following <br /> two incident involving Rubens Barrichello:  </p>
<p>1. Overtaking under caution &#8211; I&#8217;m pretty sure I saw RB overtake a Prost on <br /> the Start/Finish straight about two laps after a car died and came to rest <br /> against the pit board wall. &nbsp;There would have been Yellow caution flags on <br /> display at that point and I thought you weren&#8217;t allowed to pass when a <br /> caution flag is displayed.  </p>
<p>2. Faking a pit-stop &#8211; When RB was chasing HHF, Frentzen was seen to dive <br /> into the pits at a less than ideal moment for his pit-stop leaving RB clear <br /> to charge for a little while with a clear track ahead of him. &nbsp;HHF&#8217;s <br /> pit-stop was Jordan&#8217;s reaction to RB&#8217;s mechanics entering the pit lane and <br /> preparing for a stop (air guns, wheels, fuel rig etc.) before packing up and <br /> returning to the garage once Frentzen passed them. &nbsp;Is this allowed, I <br /> thought they had introduced a rule to stop this from happening a few years <br /> ago to stop the fakes and feignts which were detracting from the sport. &nbsp;I <br /> think it was something along the lines of, the mechanics are not allowed out <br /> into the pitlane more than 3 laps before your pit-stop.  </p>
<p>If anyone can clarify these points I would be very grateful.  </p>
<p>Ian Rawlings wrote in message &lt;8qlqdh$nn&#8230;@lap.tarcus.org.uk&gt;&#8230; </p>
<p>In article &lt;39CE057F.13536&#8230;@madasafish.com&gt;,  </p>
<p>Fraser Stewart &lt;fstew&#8230;@madasafish.com&gt; writes: <br /> &gt; According to ITV teletext the positions of the grid have been <br /> &gt; re-painted to avoid the pole sitter being disadvantaged heavily by <br /> &gt; the bricks on the track. &nbsp;Seems fair &#8211; though it is merely more <br /> &gt; ammunition for the anti-Ferrari camp. </p>
<p>I heard on Radio 5 that it was because Ferrari protested.  </p>
<p>&#8211; <br /> There are no facts, only opinions </p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 15:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
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  In article &lt;39CE057F.13536...@madasafish.com&gt;, &lt;br /&gt; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; Fraser Stewart &lt;fstew...@madasafish.com&gt; writes: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;&gt; According to ITV teletext the positions of the grid have been &lt;br /&gt; &gt; re-painted to avoid the pole sitter being disadvantaged heavily by &lt;br /&gt; &gt; the bricks on the track. &#160;Seems fair - though it is merely more &lt;br /&gt; &gt; ammunition for the anti-Ferrari camp. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;I heard on Radio 5 that it was because Ferrari protested. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;-- &lt;br /&gt; There are no facts, only opinions &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In article &lt;39CE057F.13536&#8230;@madasafish.com&gt;, <br /> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Fraser Stewart &lt;fstew&#8230;@madasafish.com&gt; writes: <br /> 
<p>&gt; According to ITV teletext the positions of the grid have been <br /> &gt; re-painted to avoid the pole sitter being disadvantaged heavily by <br /> &gt; the bricks on the track. &nbsp;Seems fair &#8211; though it is merely more <br /> &gt; ammunition for the anti-Ferrari camp. </p>
<p>I heard on Radio 5 that it was because Ferrari protested.  </p>
<p>&#8211; <br /> There are no facts, only opinions </p>
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